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The Matrix, San Francisco, CA, August 1966
Live in San Jose 1966 (Groucho, LP)
Live in San Jose 1966 (Document Records, CD)
Live in San Jose 1966 (Italian CD)
Live in San Francisco 1966-1968
Avalon Ballroom, 9-Sep-66
Studio Outtakes & Demos 66/67
Lysergic Howls from the Wasteland: Live in San Francisco 1966/1968
Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco, 9/4/66(?)
Avalon Ballroom, San Francisco, 21-Oct-66 + Dr Sunday's filler
Avalon Ballroom, San Francisco, 28-Oct-66
Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco, CA, November 5, 1966

Vanguard Demos 1967 + Bill Graham Radio Show 1967 + Rehearsals 1967
First Album Outtakes (#80, #93), 1967
First Album Outtakes (#17), 1967
Live in 1967 (JC Tree #1)
Live in 1967 (JC Tree #2)
Fillmore West, San Francisco, 4-Feb-67
Fillmore West, San Francisco, 5-Feb-67
Fillmore West, San Francisco, 6-Feb-67
The Matrix, San Francisco, 19-Mar-67
H.A.L.O. Benefit, Winterland, San Francisco, 30-May-67
Fuzz Acid & Flowers
Marin County Cowboys
Coyote Canyon
Dr. Sunday's Medicine Show, Family Park, San Jose, CA, October 8, 1967
Live Late 1967, Unknown venue
"The Fool", Outtakes & Rehearsals, Capitol Studios, San Francisco, Dec 9-11, 1967
Winterland, San Francisco, 29-Dec-67
Winterland, San Francisco, 30-Dec-67
New Year's Eve '67-68
Winterland, San Francisco, CA, December 31, 1967 (watchit)

Demo acetate, Jan-68
1968-01-00 Acetate + San Jose 1966 LP (watchit)
San Jose Forum, 13-Feb-68
Venue unknown, >February 1968
KSAN, April 68
Carousel Ballroom, SF, 14-Apr-68
Fillmore East, New York, 7-Jun-68
Fillmore East, New York, June 7 & 8, 1968
Summer of '68
Prairie Rose
Maiden of the Cancer Moon
Cavalry
Golden State Recorders, 9/12/68
Smokin' Sound
Smokestack Lightning
Voodoo Perfume
Fillmore West, 25-Aug-68
Fillmore West, 7-Nov-68
Babylon
Winterland, SF, 31-Dec-68

Studio Rehearsal with Dino Valenti, ?1969
"Shady Grove" (song) Rehearsal, February 12, 1969
"Shady Grove" (album) Outtakes, 1969
"Edward's Dance" Studio Outs, 23/4-7-69
"Edward's Dance" Studio Outs, 25-7-69
Edward Overdub Sessions, 9/69
Edward Outtakes, Wally Heider Studios, San Francisco, CA, September 1969
The Night They Closed The 60's Down
Winterland, 31-Dec-69

Fillmore East, 24-Jan-70
Family Dog, San Francisco, CA, February 7th 1970, early & late shows
Civic Center, San Antonio, Texas, 21-Feb-70
Winterland, 23-Feb-70
Fillmore West, 23-Feb-70
Place de' Rehearsal, Corte Madera, California, March 4th, 1970
Olympic Auditorium, LA, 21-Mar-70
The Old Mill, Mill Valley, Marin County, March 29th 1970
The Old Mill, Mill Valley, Marin County, April 1970
Stonybrook University Gym, NY, 5-Apr-1970
Winterland, San Francisco, CA, 15-Apr-1970
Hawaian Recordings (Rehearsal), Opaglua Lodge, Oahu, Hawaii, June 4th, 1970
Red Vest, Oahu, Hawaii, 13-Jun-70
Fillmore West, 10-Jul-70
Fillmore West?, Summer 1970
What About Me Outtakes & Rehearsals, Wally Heider Studio, July 29th & 30th, 1970 & Corte Madera, SF, July 31st, 1970
What About Me Studio Sessions, 30-Jul-70
A Tribute to Jesse Farrow (What About Me out-takes 1970, Calibration Show 1971)
Family Dog, Aug-70
Family Dog at the Beach, 1-Aug-70
Freedom Palace, Kansas City, 15-Aug-70
Winterland Arena, San Francisco, California, October 4th, 1970
Kabuki Theater, LA, 31-Dec-70, aka Kabuki Mojo

Swing Auditorium, San Bernardino, CA, February 19, 1971
Fillmore West, 7/4/71
The Fillmore West Closing Week Concerts, Night 4, Saturday 3 July 1971

Rehearsal, 1975
Album Rehearsal, SIR, June 75
Album Rehearsal, SIR, June 75
Album Rehearsal, SIR, San Francisco, CA, June 29, 30 & 31, 75
SIR Studio Rehearsal, June 31, 1975
Studio Outtakes 1975, Part 7
The Work Tapes, July 3 - 8, 1975
Armadillo World Headquarters, Austin, Texas, 21-Dec-1975
Winterland, 28-Dec-75


The Matrix, San Francisco, CA, August 1966



Tracks
1.Got My Mojo Working4:41
2.Remember Me3:22
3.I Hear You Knocking3:51
4.Runaway2:33
5.Smokestack Lightning11:34
6.Suzie-Q3:33
7.Little Dandelion2:04
8.All Night Worker3:52
9.Hoochie Koochie Man6:15
10.Duncan and Brady3:09
11.Pride of Man3:35
12.You Don't Love Me3:08
13.Dino's Song3:10
14.Hair Like Sunshine (early version)5:24
15.Babe I'm Gonna Leave You2:55
16.Mona (incomplete)6:42
Total69:48


This may be the earliest known live performance of the Quicksilver Messenger Service. It does not appear to be circulating. I transferred it from a cheap 1980s cassette which was labeled as The Matrix, SF, mid '66. I was able to find information on the Internet which narrows the date down to August 9-10, 1966. I don't know which date this is, and there are several cuts in the tape, so it could be from both dates. Since there are no duplicate songs, I assume it's all from one night, possibly multiple sets.

Interesting to me, and possibly confirming this as an early show, are the lyrics to track 14. "Hair Like Sunshine" is on several other Quicksilver recordings, but on this one, the lyrics are completely different for the first part of the song: no Hair Like Sunshine, for example. The second part of the song is as usual. Track 2 is also unique as far as I know, and I'm not sure of the title. The source tape had tracks 7-16 as Side A and tracks 1-6 as Side B but I switched them; seems more correct with the incomplete Mona at the end. Tracks 1-6 sound slightly better too.

Recording quality is listenable but not great. This is a very primitive stereo soundboard tape. The main problem is lack of treble combined with an abundance of hiss. I rolled off the high frequencies and boosted the midrange for a little bit of an improvement. I've heard worse, and this appears to be pretty unique at the moment. Anyone got a better copy?


Live in San Jose 1966 (Groucho, LP)

LP Front
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LP Back
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Tracks
Side 1
1.All Night Worker3:40
2.Walkin Blues 3:30
3.I Hear You Knockin'3:45
4.* Mona 11:10
Side 2
1.Your Time Will Come6:30
2.Smokestack Lightning9:50
3.Who Do You Love9:00

Recorded Live In San Jose California 1966 September

* Recorded October 1966 without Jim Murray

. Printed in USA .
Limited Edition #

THE FABOULOUS LINE UP
Jim MurrayVoice and Harmonica
John CipollinaLead Guitar
Gary DuncanGuitars
David FreibergBass
Greg ElmoreDrums


Release History
LabelCat NoCountryFormatDateNotes
GrouchoMAR-X 38.502ItalyLP1980


hi just for info on your site as you mention my vinyl rip of live in san jose it ain't no US made boot - Groucho Records is from Italy - an italian bootleg company who just made 2 bootlegs - Live in San Jose & The Charlatans [the white one with the 2 pistols] which was their first - the lps were pressed in luxemburg - anyway on my original white vinyl i got from the bootmaker himself is no made in USA mentioned [no country of origin on that lp] - further infos is that they were 2 runs both 500 - one on heavy white vinyl - a picture discs [my rip is from those original picture discs] + one on black vinyls with cover this time [same original plates were used for both runs] - it seems that later there was another copy in the US made from the groucho vinyls - but not from their plates - the lps were made in 1980 - and the charlatans lp in 1979 - both groucho releases are fantastic sounding - i compared my vinyl rip of the charlatans with the recent UK Amazing Charlatans release and the tracks sound the same - and Big Beat used George Hunters Master studio tapes - tho did Groucho in 79 - they used the master too for san jose - each underground shop thru europe received only 2 of those picture discs [the 2nd run of Charlatans + 1st run of QMS on white vinyl] - i was in a paris underground shop when the boot maker offered them himself - that is how i met him and got one of each... i would not even mention the 2 italian cd boots as none came from the masters - both are only bad sounding copies - the highs are cut and they are EQed adding some bass but over dehissed... i don't even mention them in my own private listings... that is to set the infos right - country of origin is italy year is 1980 and made in luxemburg not USA....



Live in San Jose 1966 (Document Records, CD)



Tracks
1.All Night Worker3:44
2.I Hear You Knockin'3:34
3.Your Time Will Come6:22
4.Smokestack Lightning9:38
5.Who Do You Love9:10
6.Back Door Man4:19
7.Gold and Silver12:34
8.Codine 6:44
9.The Fool12:36
Total Time69:08

Ci scusiamo per la eccelente qualita sonora di questo disco, realizzato da registrazioni di fortuna dell'epoca.
Diese Tonaufnahmen wurden mit Amateurgeraten gemacht. Die Qualitat entspricht nicht der herkommlicher Studioaufnahmen.


Personnel
Jim MurrayVoice and Harmonica
John CipollinaLead Guitar
Gary DuncanGuitars
David FreibergBass
Greg ElmoreDrums


Release History
LabelCat NoCountryFormatDateNotes
Document RecordsDR009CD



Live in San Jose 1966 (Italian CD)

Booklet Outer
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Booklet Inner
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Booklet Outer
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Booklet Inner
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Tracks
1.All Night Worker (trad.)3:40
2.Walking Blues (trad.)3:20
3.I Hear You Knockin' (Robinson/Bunn/Lewis)3:34
4.Mona (McDaniels) 11:11
5.Your Time Will Come (trad.)6:28
6.Smokestack Lightning (Burnett)9:27
7.Who Do You Love (McDaniels)8:36
Total Time46:17


il dizionario del rock miti di ieri e di oggi (the dictionary of rock myths yesterday and today)

armando curcio editore (arming curcio publisher)


Produzione: Armando Curcio Editore
Remastering: Wonderland Studio
Consulenza editoriale: Paolo Prato
Consulenza musicale: Narco Giorgi, Cesare Rizzi
Illustrazione: Giovanni Nazzoleni

Strano destino, quello dei Quicksilver Messenger Service. Messaggeri di nome e fatto di quell'amore californiano consumato in poche estati e molte ingenuita, non hanno mai ottenuto popolarita al loro o a quello gruppi di successo con i quali dividevano vita e concerti. Grateful Dead e Jefferson Airplane, tanto por non fare nomi, Cipollina, Freiberg, Murray, Duncan, Elmore paiono col senno di poi pescatori assopiti all'ombra dell'ultimo sole di San Francisco, felici di versare il vino e spezzare il pane per chiunque avesse un solco lungo il viso come una specie di sorriso. Questo chiedevano, questo gli e stato dato. Nulla di piu. Eppure Happy Trails, registrato quasi interamente dal vivo, denso di cavalcate psichedelice, con gli strumenti di Cipollina e Duncan che si dichiarano guerra, si rincorrono, si intrecciano, per poi lasciarsi e nuovomente unirsi in abbraccio, e con i ritmi ora morbidamente jazzati ora ferocemente tribali, eppure Happy Trails trasuda di California come forse nessun altro disco del periodo. Eppure le canzoni dei Quicksilver, a partire dalla versione lunga 25 minuti di Who Do You Love che avra turbato il sonno di Bo Diddley, sono gioielli di rock visionario con montature spagnoleggianti, free jazz, acustiche o furiose. Eppure il loro suono non si e perduto nel nulla, se persino i Television li hanno consultati per sintonizzarsi sul canale giusto.

L'insuccesso (in termi di massa, perche i Quicksilver godono ancora oggi di un norevole culto) e mistero doloroso per tutti meno che per loro. Sgranar rosari non serve, ma questo limpido concerto del 1966, tra le dorate colline di San Jose, e come Parigi. Val piu d'una messa.

Massimo Cotto
 

What a strange destiny for the Quicksilver Messenger Service. Messengers, in name and in deed, of that Californian love which burnt out within few summers and much naivety, they never enjoyed a degree of popularity for their own group and for those successful groups they shared life and concerts with. Grateful Dead and Jefferson Airplane, just for instance, Cipollina, Freiberg, Murray, Duncan, Elmore are, with hindsight, like fishermen who got sleepy at sunset in San Francisco and happy to pour out wine and break bread for anyone with a wrinkled face just like smiling. That's all what they asked for, that's all what they got. Nothing more.

Nevertheless Happy Trails which was recorded almost entirely live, is full of psychedelic "raids" with Cipollina's and Duncan's instruments fighting against each other, chasing one another, joining together, leaving each other and embracing each other again, sometimes to a soft jazz-rhythm sometimes to a savage, tribal beat; and yet Happy Trails ooze with California perhaps more than any other recording of that time.

However the songs of the Quicksilver, beginning from the 25-minute version of Who Do You Love which may perhaps have troubled Bo Diddley's sleep, are jewels of visionary rock with Spanish echoes and free jazz, acoustic or furious accent. And yet their sound didn't vanish if even the Television looked them up in order to get tuned on the right channel.

Their failure (in terms of mass, because the Quicksilver even nowadays enjoy a remarkable degree of cult) is a painful mystery for everybody but themselves. It is no use to tell their beads, but this limpid concert in 1966, between the golden hills of San Jose, is like Paris. It is worth more than a mass.

[Many thanks to Jens' Italian friend for the translation, and to Jens for posting the artwork and the music.]



Personnel
Jim Murrayvocals, harmonica
John Cipollinaguitar
Gary Duncanguitar
David Freibergbass
Greg Elmoredrums


Release History
LabelCat NoCountryFormatDateNotes
Italy CD 1991



Avalon Ballroom, 9-Sep-66



Tracks
1.Avalon Ballroom radio spot
(with radio static noise in it)
0:33
2.Stand By Me 4:00
3.Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You4:43
4.Pride of Man 3:55
5.Smokestack Lightning6:20
6.Codine 5:23
7.Gold and Silver2:15
8.Hoochie Cootchie Man5:06
Total32:18

Personnel
Jim MurrayVoice and Harmonica
John CipollinaLead Guitar
Gary DuncanGuitars
David FreibergBass
Greg ElmoreDrums



Studio Outtakes & Demos 66/67

As circulated via DimeADozen, November 2005


Tracks
Capitol Studios, S.F. - 1967
1.The Fool14:40
Pacific High Studios, S.F. - 1966
2.Camaro Ad1:06
Continental Sound Recorders, Hollywood - 1967
3.Dino's Song3:23
4.Gold & Silver2:36
5.Light Your Windows2:36
6.Pride Of Man4:03
7.I Hear You Knockin'3:17
Total31:45


SB LINEAGE UNKNOWN > REEL > M-AUDIO TRANSIT > COOL EDIT > CD WAVE EDITOR > FLAC

"here's a handful of Quicksilver tracks i've had for many years. i haven't seen these particular versions around. included is a great unreleased take of The Fool with acoustic guitars and a nice violin solo by David Frieberg. also included is the Camaro ad which was on the Marin County Cowboys boot collection. the remaining songs are different than other versions i've heard. i gave them a close listen and compared them to the official tracks on the first CD and the Lost Gold and Silver collection and they are different. i have some other songs too but did not include them as they are the same as the released takes. enjoy, dave"


Live in San Francisco 1966-1968



Tracks
1.Pride of Man 3:50
2.Smokestack Lightning6:08
3.Codine 4:52
4.Gold and Silver2:08
5.Hoochie Coochie Man4:49
6.Back Door Man4:02
7.The Fool13:12
8.Light Your Windows2:54
9.Who Do You Love13:01

Recorded Live at Avalon (1 - 5), Fillmore East, June 3rd 1968 (6) Winterland, March 1968 (7 - 9)


Personnel
John Cipollinaguitars
Gary Duncanguitars, vocals
David Freibergbass, vocals
Greg Elmoredrums


Release History
LabelCat NoCountryFormatDateNotes
Living LegendLLR-CD 011CD





Lysergic Howls From The Wasteland: Live in San Francisco 1966/1968



Tracks
1.Dino's Song3:49
2.Acapulco Gold and Silver2:13
3.Smokestack Lightning6:10
4.Jam 8:58
5.Babe I'm Gonna Leave You6:21
6.Smokestack Lightning11:41
7.Mona/
Maiden of the Cancer Moon/
Calvary
17:27
Total56:43


Tracks 1-3: The Avalon Ballroom, 1966
Tracks 4-7: The Fillmore West, Nov 1968

An Aste'RISK-DISK' ReKording for Whistling Oyster ProduKtions ©1966/1968

Release History
LabelCat NoCountryFormatDateNotes
Aste'Risk-Disks'FYNE 019CD-R





Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco, 9/4/66(?)



Tracks
First Set
1.Got My Mojo Working5:13
2.Dino's Song3:19
3.Hair Like Sunshine6:07
4.Acapulco Gold and Silver3:00
5.Babe I'm Gonna Leave You4:19
6.Smokestack Lightning12:02
7.Your Time Will Come5:42
Total39:43
Second Set
8.Dino's Song3:53
9.You Don't Love Me3:26
10.I Hear You Knocking4:26
11.Acapulco Gold and Silver3:46
12.Codiene5:46
13.Suzie Q4:57
14.Mama Keep Your Big Mouth Shut2:34
Total28:50
Bonus tracks
15.All Night Worker3:38
16.Pride of Man3:55
Total7:34


Lineage: SB -> ? -> cassette -> Nakamichi BX-300 -> Audiophile 2496/Adobe Audition -> CD Wave -> FLAC 1.2.1
Tagging by foobar2000
Cuesheet included for playing or burning

This set is generally circulated as 9/14/67 but that date can't be right. Jim Murrary was gone by 8/18/67, according to Faren Miller's Quicksilver Diaries, which are available on the Cipollina Yahoo group. Therefore, I picked a new date. I chose a September 1966 Fillmore date, 9/4/66, with the assumption that someone got the year wrong years after the event. Possible further confirmation of the year is that the recording is mono, whereas the great Feb. 1967 Quicksilver Fillmore West soundboards are stereo. If this were truly Sept. 1967, it should be stereo, I would think. Note that this version, which is from a cassette and not any previous digital source, includes Dino's Song to begin the second set. This song is missing from most circulating versions.

As for the recording quality, it's pretty good soundboard. However, the vocals are too loud compared to the guitars. The tape was pretty hissy so I rolled of the treble over 10kHz and used some light digital noise reduction in Adobe Audition. There are some artifacts, esp. on the cymbals, but I think the tradeoff was worth it.

The cassette also included four other songs. Two I was able to identify as having already in slightly better quality on "Marin County Cowboys," so they aren't included. The other two are included here as bonus tracks. All Night Worker is a similar recording to the "Live in San Jose" September 1966 version, but it's different. Pride of Man, judging from the applause at the beginning, may be a TV broadcast.

If anyone has a better version, please seed it.




Avalon Ballroom, SF, 21-Oct-66 +
Dr Sunday's filler



Tracks
1.Intro > Mona11:07
2.Mona continued0:40
3.If You Live Your Time Will Come6:27
4.Smokestack Lightning9:22
5.Dandelion 2:03
6.Codeine 4:21
7.Runaway > Pride of Man5:39
8.Dino's Song3:24
9.Back Door Man3:55
10.Light Your Windows *3:49
11.Too Long 3:12
12.Who Do You Love 4:24
Total58:29


* Instrumental version with someone playing flute & sax

The intro is just "The Quicksilver Messenger Service"

The sound quality of tracks 8-12 is different from the others, so I assume they're from the Dr Sunday's show. The track sequence matches the first 5 tracks of the 7-track Dr. Sunday's Medicine Show, Family Park, San Jose, CA, October 8, 1967.




Avalon Ballroom, SF, 28-Oct-66

As circulated via DimeADozen by 38f, July 2006



Tracks
1.Intro 0:04
2.Mona 11:38
3.If You Live Your Time Will Come6:27
4.Smokestack Lightning9:22
5.Dandelion 1:58
6.Codeine 4:21
7.Runaway *2:11
8.Pride of Man +3:27
Total39:32


The intro is just "The Quicksilver Messenger Service"

* rare rendition of "runaway"
+ not included in the majority of the tapes in circulation

The sound improvement of this source is that, finally, there is only a little hiss on this tape, and no drops, compare with all the others tapes in circulation... Still you have the same little distortion in some points like all the others sources in circulation. Also this tape contains "Pride Of Man" not included in many others tapes of this show.

First generation reel to reel (revox) > amplifiers > tascam audio cdrw750 > cd > computer > plex tool professional XL > wav > flac. No EQ was used this time, tape not needed any... just a raw recording like it originally was done.

Transfered, remastered & uploaded by 38f on Dime 2006.




Fillmore Auditorium, SF, CA, November 5, 1966

As circulated via Cip&Quick, 12/04



Tracks
-- Set I --
01.Dino's Song [3:12] [0:02]
02.Hair Like Sunshine [4:55] [0:43] (1)
03.I Hear You Knockin' [3:34] [0:48] (2)
04.Babe I'm Gonna Leave You [4:28] [0:11]
05.Smokestack Lightning [11:37] [0:54]
06.If You Live [5:33] [0:04]
07.All Night Worker [3:50] [0:06]
-- Set II --
08.[0:57] Got My Mojo Workin' [4:08] [0:32]
09.You Don't Love Me [2:40] ->
10.Suzy Q [3:38] [0:16] (3)
11.Hoochie Coochie Man [5:18] [1:08] (4)
12.Babe I'm Gonna Leave You [4:30] [1:09] (5)
13.Gold & Silver [2:09] [0:51]
14.Stand By Me [4:18] [0:56] (6)
15.Pride of Man [3:44] [0:08]
Total76:23


Soundboard ? > ? cassette > DAT > CD > Plexwriter PX-W4824A extraction (EAC v0.9 beta 4) > sector boundary verification (shntool v1.01) > level 8 FLAC encoding (Flac Frontend v.1.7.1 etree edition) > CD.

Notes:
- Clean but oversaturated soundboard. Based on the provenance and on the level of hiss, I would guess that the true lineage is MSR > C > D > CD, but I cannot confirm that.
- The fact that Babe I'm Gonna Leave You appears in both "sets", and comment #4 (below) make it seem likely that this material comes from more than one date, though I have no idea whether or not QMS at this stage might have played the song twice in one night (e.g., in early and late shows).
- I have some questions about the order of the songs for the late show. The order in which they appear here corresponds to the order written down on the labels of the digitized cassettes, but *not* to the actual music on the cassettes, which was as follows: Hoochie Coochie Man, Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, Gold & Silver, Stand By Me, Pride of Man, Got My Mojo Workin', You Don't Love Me -> Suzy Q. I was encouraged to keep that order, but have decided to put things as they were originally labeled, for one single reason: the banter corresponds much more closely to the written order than to the actual order on the tapes. This is most clearly true for banter #6 (before Pride of Man). Also, the tuning before Mojo Workin' seems consistent with the start of a set/show. But not a note of this material was edited, so one can still re-arrange the material as originally laid out.
Banter Notes (approximate):
- (1)"It's called Hair Like Sunshine, it's written by Jack Sheldon (?). Do a song that Jimmy wrote next called 'I Hear You Knockin''."
- (2)"Do a folk song next called 'Babe I'm Gonna Leave You. A real honest-to-God folk song." "Folk rock, is what it is." "Well ... try to keep up on everything."
- (3)We'd like to dedicate this first song to Muddy Waters. It's called "I Got My Mojo Workin'.'"
- (4)"We got a request to do a song called 'Babe I'm Gonna Leave You'."
- (5)"We'd like to do a song now called 'Acapulco Gold & Silver'. It's a [sic] instrumental, nobody ever sings on it."
- (6)"We're gonna do one more song, and then, uh, this thing's gonna be over, and it's called 'Pride of Man'. It's written by Hamilton Camp, and it's about, uh, it's about some kind of religious thing. I don't know. I don't wanna get involved." "See, see, last song. After this everybody, good night."





Avalon Ballroom, SF, 28-Oct-66

As circulated via DimeADozen by 38f, July 2006



Tracks
1.Intro 0:04
2.Mona 11:38
3.If You Live Your Time Will Come6:27
4.Smokestack Lightning9:22
5.Dandelion 1:58
6.Codeine 4:21
7.Runaway *2:11
8.Pride of Man +3:27
Total39:32


The intro is just "The Quicksilver Messenger Service"

* rare rendition of "runaway"
+ not included in the majority of the tapes in circulation

The sound improvement of this source is that, finally, there is only a little hiss on this tape, and no drops, compare with all the others tapes in circulation... Still you have the same little distortion in some points like all the others sources in circulation. Also this tape contains "Pride Of Man" not included in many others tapes of this show.

First generation reel to reel (revox) > amplifiers > tascam audio cdrw750 > cd > computer > plex tool professional XL > wav > flac. No EQ was used this time, tape not needed any... just a raw recording like it originally was done.

Transfered, remastered & uploaded by 38f on Dime 2006.




Vanguard Demos 1967 +
Bill Graham Radio Show 1967 +
Rehearsals 1967



Tracks
Vanguard Demos 1967
1.If You Live 3:09
2.Too Long 3:14
3.Who Do You Love 5:58
4.Walkin' Blues 3:10
5.Codeine 5:03
Bill Graham Radio Show 1967
6.Acapulco Gold and Silver2:19
7.Codeine 5:42
8.Pride of Man 3:57
Rehearsals 1967
9.Dandelion 3:08
10.Pride of Man 3:52
11.Too Long 3:30
12.Who Do You Love 8:44
13.Dino's Song 3:33
14.Codeine 5:20
Total60:48



First Album Outtakes (#80, #93), 1967

(As vined via the MSN Cip & Quick group in 2005)



Tracks
-- JC #80 --
1.Dino's Song (Takes 2-4) 5:28
2 - 6.Gold & Silver
(Takes 1, 2, 3, 6, 8)
1:01
2:54
2:55
2:15
2:54
7.Light Your Windows 2:55
8.Pride of Man 4:00
9.I Hear You Knocking 3:13
10 - 15.The Fool
(Takes 1, 2, 5, 6 inserts for take 9)
4:58
1:05
6:37
0:54
5:05
7:35
-- JC #93 --
16.Dino's Song 2:06
17.Gold & Silver2:17
18.Codeine 5:06
19.Dandelion 1:47
Total65:14


MSR? > Teac X-300R 1/4 R2R playback > unknown model HHB CDRW/0 > unknown drive extraction (Easy CD-DA Extractor) > tracking (CD Wave) > CD/1 (Easy CD Creator) > Plexwriter PX-W4824A extraction (EAC v0.9 beta 4) > sector boundary verification (shntool v1.01) > level 8 FLAC encoding (Flac Frontend v1.7.1 etree edition). EAC >> FLAC by jjoops.

Notes:
-A fair number of crackles and such throughout, some possibly digital in nature, but overall sounds very nice, the best sounding copy of first album outtakes I have come across.
-Cipollina's reels are believed to be masters, though it is possible that they aren't and that there are additional (reel) gens here.
Thanks to the generous provider of this great stuff!



First Album Outtakes (#17), 1967

(As seeded via DimeADozen, 9/06)

Continental Sound Recording Studios, San Francisco, California, 1967
JC's master #17, SBD, 1st gen reel to reel straight off JC's master

Tracks
-- JC #17 --
1.Dino's Song (Take 16)3:27
2.Studio chat > Dino's Song (False start)0:18
3.Gold & Silver (Take 17)2:33
4.Light Your Windows 2:38
5.Pride of Man 4:18
6.I Hear You Knocking 3:12
7.Stand By Me (Take 1)4:05
8.Stand By Me (Take 2)4:18
9.Studio chat > The Fool14:29
10.False Start > Chat > Gold & Silver (Take 18)2:58
Total42:21


1st generation reel to reel (revox) > behringer ultra curve pro deq 2496 audio equalizer > amplifiers > tascam audio cdrw750 > cd > computer > plex tool professional XL > wav > flac.

Transfered, remastered & uploaded by 38f on Dime September 2006.

This material has partially circulated. This another tape i copied straight from John's master when i was living in his house and executive producing the Terry & the Pirates lp. Here you have the master n. 17 in his entirety, sound quality is superb, so enjoy it...
i forgot to add in the description, i don't really know at this point how at the origins those John's masters tapes were assembled, cause the same version of some songs, expecially in terms of demos and outtakes are in many different masters with a different number... i have counted around 117 different John's masters, but some of them have only 1 or 2 songs different from the others... so since some "numbers" never circulated, i guess the best way to do it is to share those ghosts, like this one, so in this way you can have at least 1 or 2 songs that you missed before... for example, "the fool" version on this is the same of the others masters, but "gold + silver" and "pride of man " are different versions... said that i do not have all those masters, so i hope others of those missing numbers one day will surface...
ok regarding the numbers i don't know who did it, if John did it or the studio guys did it... regarding tape #80, just read my explanation at the beginning... this is better quality of that and slightly different... i just have a number of tapes with different numbers, and many holes in between, i go from number 3 to number 7, to 11 to 17, to 21, etc. etc... so the only way to go out of this would be to find somebody that was really close to John at the time and resolve the puzzle, but till now nobody seems capable to do it, not SK, MS, Antonia, Mario, all of them, with wich i am always in contact have more infos of what i have... i can just tell, John was one of the best guys in the world, but not one of the most organized person around...



Live in 1967 (JC Tree #1)



Tracks
1.Instrumental7:06
2.Pride of Man3:44
3.Who Do You Love9:24
4.If You Live4:10
5.It's Been Too Long3:12
6.Smokestack Lightning10:06
7.Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You4:22
8.Gold and Silver10:44
9.Dino's Song2:49
10.Back Door Man3:57
11.Mona > Maiden of the Cancer Moon8:53
Total68:33

Venue, date not known but probably late 1967 as no Jim Murray


Personnel
John Cipollinaguitar
Gary Duncanguitar, voc.
David Freibergbass, voc.
Greg Elmoredrums



Live in 1967 (JC Tree #2)



Tracks
Disc 1
1.You Don't Love Me3:46
2.I Hear You Knocking4:17
3.Gold and Silver3:10
4.All Night Worker5:13
5.Codeine6:24
6.Got My Mojo Working4:32
7.Mona9:16
8.Fool For You Baby2:35*
9.I Can't Believe It4:30*
10.Look Around3:01*
11.Dino's Song3:25
12.Walking Blues3:41
Total53:55
Disc 2
1.Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You5:00
2.Hoochie Coochie Man 5:23
3.Stand By Me6:27
4.It's Been Too Long (not Driving Wheel!)5:07
5.Duncan & Brady3:41
6.Pride of Man4:34
7.Who Do You Love6:16
8.Susie Q3:39
9.I Hear You Knocking3:50
10.Little Dandelion2:28
11.Gold & Silver2:31
12.You Don't Love Me2:51
13.Codeine4:50
Total56:44
Disc 3
1.Instrumental3:28
2.Smokestack Lightning6:56
3.Dino's Song3:24
4.Walking Blues2:54
5.It's Been Too Long3:48
6.Duncan & Brady3:00
7.Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You6:03
8.If You Live6:15
9.Hoochie Coochie Man 4:38
10.All Night Worker3:56
11.Pride of Man3:43
12.Mona10:51
13.Got My Mojo Working4:14
14.Who Do You Love (cut)6:06
Total69:24
Disc 4
1.Dino's Song3:12
2.Back Door Man3:55
3.Light Your Windows (Instr.)3:51
4.It's Been Too Long3:10
5.Who Do You Love7:32
6.Gold & Silver11:08
7.The Fool9:06
8.Codeine4:39
9.Dino's Song3:05
10.Hair Like Sunshine4:43
11.Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You4:08
12.Pride of Man3:39
13.Instrumental2:05
14.Smokestack Lightning5:51
Total70:09

D1, Tracks 1-12 and D2, Tracks 1-7: Fillmore, February 4, 1967
D2, Tracks 8-13 and D3, Tracks 1-14: Fillmore, February 5, 1967, or, Matrix, March 17, 1967
D4, Tracks 1-7: San Jose, October 8, 1967
D4, Tracks 8-14: Fillmore, February 3, 1967


Personnel
John Cipollinaguitar
Gary Duncanguitar, vocals
David Freibergbass, vocals
Greg Elmoredrums
Jim Murrayvocals
Dino Valente*
Steve Schustersax, fluteSan Jose



Fillmore West, SF, 4-Feb-67



Tracks
Disc 1
1.You Don't Love Me4:05
2.I Hear You Knockin'4:21
3.Gold & Silver3:10
4.All Night Worker5:15
5.Codine6:25
6.Mojo4:34
7.Mona9:19
8.A Fool For You *2:35
9.I Can't Believe It *4:31
10.Look Around You *3:11
Total47:31
Disc 2
1.Dino's Song3:25
2.Walkin' Blues3:38
3.Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You5:00
4.Hoochie Coochie Man 5:24
5.Stand By Me6:27
6.Too Long5:09
7.Duncan & Brady3:41
8.Pride of Man4:36
9.Who Do You Love6:19
Total43:44


"Ok since I removed my previous QMS torrent for the reasons I explained, here another great sounding and interesting show for you guys... there are 3 songs with Dino Valenti just out of jail, and some songs that QMS only few times played... enjoy it..."

Personnel
John Cipollinaguitar
Gary Duncanguitar, vocals
David Freibergbass, vocals
Greg Elmoredrums
Jim Murrayvocals
Dino Valenti*



Fillmore West, SF, 5-Feb-67



Tracks
Disc 1
1.Suzie Q 2:58
2.I Hear You Knockin' 4:39
3.Dandelion 3:26
4.Gold & Silver 3:14
5.You Don't Love Me 3:57
6.Codeine 6:08
7.Instrumental 3:52
8.Smokestack Lightning8:04
Total36:22
Disc 2
1.Dino's Song 4:06
2.Walkin' Blues 3:33
3.Driving Wheel 5:01
4.Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You5:51
5.Hey Mama 3:26
6.Hoochie Coochie Man 6:12
7.All Night Worker5:27
8.Stand By Me 6:38
9.Pride of Man 3:57
Total44:16


SB MASTER > CASSETTE > AUDIO CD > EAC > FLAC

Personnel
John Cipollinaguitar
Gary Duncanguitar, vocals
David Freibergbass, vocals
Greg Elmoredrums
Jim Murrayvocals



Fillmore West, SF, 6-Feb-67



Tracks
1.You Don't Love Me > tuning/chat4:04
2.All Night Worker5:05
3.Gold & Silver 3:23
4.Hey Mama 3:51
5.Walkin' Blues 5:52
6.Year of the Outrage > tuning/chat9:43
7.I Hear You Knockin' 4:00
8.A Fool For You Baby * > tuning4:26
9.I Can't Believe It *5:39
Total46:06


* Vocal by Dino?

Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco, CA, 6-Feb-67



Tracks
1.You Don't Love Me[2:40] [1:24]
2.All Night Worker[3:48] [1:17]
3.Gold & Silver[2:17] [1:06]
4.Hey Mama[2:29] [1:22]
5.Walkin' Blues (1)[4:29] [1:23]
6.Year of the Outrage (1)[7:47] [1:52]
7.I Hear You Knockin'[3:49] [0:11]
8.I'm A Fool (2)[3:38] [0:48]
9.I Can't Believe It (2)[5:23] [0:15]
Total46:05


Master Sbd Reel > 2 cassettes > CD > EAC > FLAC > CD

Notes:
-(1) w/ Nick Gravenites (vocals)
-(2) w/ Dino Valenti (vocals)
-Clean but oversaturated soundboard of a historically interesting show. It is possible that the second cassette was Dolby C encoded.



The Matrix, SF, 19-Mar-67

Cassette version, received 6/87


Tracks
Side 1
1.Susie Q
2.I Hear You Knocking
3.Little Dandelion
4.Gold & Silver
5.You Don't Love Me
6.Codeine
7.Instrumental
8.Smokestack Lightning
9.Dino's Song
10.Walking Blues
11.It's Been Too Long
12.Duncan & Brady
Side 2
13.Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You
14.If You Live
15.Hoochie Coochie Man
16.All Night Worker
17.Pride of Man
18.Mona
19.Got My Mojo Working
20.Who Do You Love


Personnel
John Cipollinaguitar
Gary Duncanguitar, vocals
David Freibergbass, vocals
Greg Elmoredrums
Jim Murrayvocals


The Matrix, SF, 19-Mar-67

2 x CD-R version, received 9/03


Tracks
Disc 1
1.Susie Q4:19
2.I Hear You Knocking3:34
3.Little Dandelion2:27
4.Gold & Silver2:42
5.You Don't Love Me3:00
6.Codeine4:54
7.Instrumental3:26
8.Smokestack Lightning6:56
9.You Don't Love Me3:45
10.I Hear You Knockin'4:17
11.Gold and Silver3:07
12.All Night Worker5:15
13.Got My Mojo Working4:32
14.Mona 9:15
15.? 3:24
Total65:01
Disc 2
1.Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You6:00
2.If You Live6:14
3.Hoochie Coochie Man 4:39
4.All Night Worker3:56
5.Pride of Man3:43
6.Mona10:51
7.Got My Mojo Working4:17
8.Who Do You Love6:03
Total45:46


"Recording split in the middle (d1t9 - d1t15) by another concert - I presume Fillmore February 1967 since they mention the Airplane + Valenti and I have that poster on my wall"

Personnel
John Cipollinaguitar
Gary Duncanguitar, vocals
David Freibergbass, vocals
Greg Elmoredrums
Jim Murrayvocals


The Matrix, SF, 19-Mar-67

As seeded via DimeADozen, 6/05


Tracks
Set 1
Disc 1
1.Susie Q4:04
2.I Hear You Knocking3:26
3.Little Dandelion2:25
4.Gold & Silver2:41
5.You Don't Love Me2:57
6.Codeine4:40
7.I'm Backwords (Instrumental)3:25
8.Smokestack Lightning6:43
Set 2
9.Dino's Song >3:23
10.Walking Blues2:43
11.It's Been Too Long3:44
12.Duncan & Brady2:50
13.Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You5:47
14.If You Live6:05
15.Hoochie Coochie Man 4:26
16.All Night Worker3:50
17.Pride of Man3:46
Total67:04
Disc 2
18.Mona10:35
19.Got My Mojo Working4:04
20.Who Do You Love6:16
Total20:57


I got it as a soundboard, but i think is it a super quality audience.

Master reel to reel > eaqualizer > cd > eac > wav > flac.

Notes: Discussing at the time with John about this master, i remember he told me that in his opinion the tape's speed on this was a little faster than usual, cause it was originally recorded in that way. Honestly, is it hard to tell, you can may be notice that in some songs like Mona but i'm not sure about it. By the way, i only equalized a bit this tape, i don't wanna mess up with the tape speed, cause comparing this with other ten quicksilver master recordings i have from 67, i've noticed that the tape speed is slightly different in any one of them. Is it just a miracle to have this show in this sound quality after 40 years, expecially comparing it to the versions of this show in circulation. - Fabio Nosotti

Personnel
John Cipollinaguitar
Gary Duncanguitar, vocals
David Freibergbass, vocals
Greg Elmoredrums
Jim Murrayvocals


The Matrix, SF, 19-Mar-67

Speed-corrected version, as seeded via DimeADozen, 3/06


Tracks
Disc 1: First Set
1.intro talk before first song 0:34
2.Susie Q3:43
3.I Hear You Knocking3:34
4.talk: intro to Little Dandelion 0:22
5.Little Dandelion2:08
6.talk: intro to Gold And Silver 0:25
7.Gold & Silver2:42
8.You Don't Love Me2:44
9.Codeine4:58
10.talk: intro to I'm Backwords 0:36
11.I'm Backwords (Instrumental)2:53
12.Smokestack Lightning6:52
13.talk: set outro 0:07
Total:31:38
Disc 2: Second Set
1.talk before first song of set 0:25
2.// Dino's Song >3:05
3.Walking Blues2:56
4.Too Long3:54
5.Duncan & Brady3:00
6.talk: intro to Babe I'm Gonna Leave You 1:17
7.Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You4:40
8.If You Live6:20
9.Hoochie Coochie Man 4:40
10.All Night Worker4:03
11.Pride of Man3:47
12.Mona10:58
Encores:
13.Got My Mojo Working4:16
14.Who Do You Love (Cut on last notes)6:27
Total:59:48
This recording sounds to me like one channel soundboard and one channel audience, as do other circulating tapes from this club. It's definitely got an ambient sound with quite a bit of tape hiss but sounds fairly decent - especially after the speed correction.

Pitch-adjustment - slowed by 4.2% (minus 1 semitone plus 25 cents in Pro Tools). Evened out some level changes. Channel dropouts eliminated when possible or improved by pasting in from the good channel with crossfades between the stereo and mono sections. Also seamlessly removed transient noises in a few spots and retracked with one set on each CD.

No additional equalization beyond the minor EQ that was done before the previous upload (see below). New Flac files created with xACT (sector boundaries verified). md5 file created with checkSUM+.

Because questions often come up, here is some info about the pitch adjustment process: When a recording is noticeably off pitch or when 2 sources of a recording don't match in speed, first gather together released or other pitch-verified versions of as many of the songs in the set that you can find. Then import them all along with the tape to be adjusted into a music editing software program that can edit more than 2 channels at a time. Keep varying the speed adjustment around until all comparisons sound correct. Usually the key of a song will not change even if it is a different artist doing the song or with a completely different tempo and arrangement. You just will probably find the comparing easier when it is the same artist and arrangement. The tuning can be also verified with a keyboard that has a pitch-bend wheel. When the pitch has to be "bent" to sound correct it is still off-speed. I should mention that this process is especially easy in Pro Tools, because the songs can be put right next to each other and you can preview your adjustment and then hit the space bar to hear the "reference version" right after it. That way the correct speed can be decided upon before finally adjusting the complete recording. To avoid sector boundary errors, the entire recording must be speed-corrected together and then retracked.

Original Notes:

I got it as a soundboard, but i think is it a super quality audience.

Master reel to reel > eaqualizer > cd > eac > wav > flac.

Notes: Discussing at the time with John about this master, i remember he told me that in his opinion the tape's speed on this was a little faster than usual, cause it was originally recorded in that way. Honestly, is it hard to tell, you can may be notice that in some songs like Mona but i'm not sure about it. By the way, i only equalized a bit this tape, i don't wanna mess up with the tape speed, cause comparing this with other ten quicksilver master recordings i have from 67, i've noticed that the tape speed is slightly different in any one of them. Is it just a miracle to have this show in this sound quality after 40 years, expecially comparing it to the versions of this show in circulation. - Fabio Nosotti

Personnel
John Cipollinaguitar
Gary Duncanguitar, vocals
David Freibergbass, vocals
Greg Elmoredrums
Jim Murrayvocals


Palm Sunday, 19-Mar-67

Received as 2 x CD-R, 11/08


Tracks
Set 1
Disc 1
1.intro (mentions venue & date) > Susie Q4:18
2.I Hear You Knocking3:35
3.Little Dandelion2:29
4.Acapulco Gold & Silver2:44
5.You Don't Love Me3:02
6.Codeine4:55
7.I'm Backwards (Instrumental)3:27
8.Smokestack Lightning6:55
Total31:24
Disc 2
Set 2
1.Dino's Song3:29
2.Walking Blues2:56
3.It's Been Too Long3:49
4.Duncan & Brady2:54
5.Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You6:02
6.If You Live6:19
7.Hoochie Coochie Man 4:41
8.All Night Worker4:00
9.Pride of Man3:44
10.Mona10:54
11.Got My Mojo Working4:17
11.Who Do You Love (cut)6:25
Total59:30



H.A.L.O. Benefit, Winterland, SF, 30-May-67

As seeded via DimeADozen, 3/06

HALO Poster


Tracks
1.Blues Jam > Tom Donohue intro2:02
2.Pride of Man3:39
3.Walking Blues3:55
4.Dino's Song >3:28
5.Mona > Maiden Jam >10:16
6.If You Live Your Time Will Come4:12
7.Runaway 2:39
8.Who Do You Love8:48
9.Smokestack Lightning8:46
10.Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You4:35
11.Back Door Man *4:14
12.Too Long *3:27
13.The Fool *10:01
Total70:07


The Fool has a 1 sec. silence around m. 6

Haight Ashbury Legal Organization (H.A.L.O.) Benefit, along with the Dead, Jefferson Airplane and others

Complete

"* According to Joe Jupille those 3 songs were possibly from a different date, but i'm 99% sure those songs are from this show, because my tape has no interruptions before those 3 songs and the quality of the recording is identical to the others songs.

Good audience some hiss and occasional wow & flutter but otherwise a really clean copy....

This is another Tom S. request... this is from my first generation cassette... i have somewhere a reel to reel version, but i never located till now... i'm sure it will pop up sometimes and i will reupload it if it is an improvement." - Fabio Nosotti

1st generation cassette > behringer ultra curve pro deq 2496 audio equalizer > tascam audio cdrw750 > plex tool professional XL > wav > flac.

Personnel
John Cipollinaguitar
Gary Duncanguitar, vocals
David Freibergbass, vocals
Greg Elmoredrums





Fuzz Acid & Flowers



Tracks
Early Set (39:56)
1.Got My Mojo Working4:46
2.Dino's Song3:51
3.Yellow Headed Woman5:10
4.Acapulco Gold and Silver3:11
5.Babe I'm Gonna Leave You5:11
6.Smokestack Lightning10:36
7.If You Live Your Time Will Come7:19
Late Set (22:17)
8.I Hear You Knocking4:33
9.Acapulco Gold and Silver2:54
10.Codine Blues7:22
11.Susie Q4:08
12.Keep Your Big Mouth Shut3:24
Total62:32


The Fillmore West, San Francisco, California
14th September 1967

An Aste'RISK-DISK' ReKording for Whistling Oyster ProduKtions ©1967

Release History
LabelCat NoCountryFormatDateNotes
Aste'Risk-Disks'FYNE 006CD-R


Fillmore West, San Francisco, 14th September, 1967

As circulated via DimeADozen, February 2005



Tracks
Early Set
1.Got My Mojo Working5:35
2.Dino's Song3:31
3.Yellow Headed Woman >
Long Distance Call
6:00
4.Acapulco Gold and Silver3:05
5.Babe I'm Gonna Leave You4:36
6.Smokestack Lightning12:28
7.If You Live, Your Time Will Come6:10
8.All Night Worker3:41
Late Set
9.I Hear You Knocking4:59
10.Acapulco Gold and Silver3:46
11.Codine Blues5:35
12.Susie Q4:05
13.Keep Your Big Mouth Shut2:34
Total66:11


Assumed Lineage: sbd> ? > Trade CDR > eac > wav > cool edit > cdwav > shntool > flac6

Fuzz Acid & Flowers Bootleg
An Aste'RISK-DISK' ReKording for Whistling Oyster ProduKtions 1967
FYNE 006

Lou's Notes: Probably one of Jim Murray's last shows as he supposedly quit in October 1967. I received this as an audio weed split into 9 tracks. The 9th track was the entire 2nd set. The 8th track was not on the original setlist received or on the bootleg info I found, so I wrote it in. I took the 2nd set and split it into separate tracks and then re-tracked the whole show.

Other than that, I didn't do much other than raise the volume and take a bit of the dead space out of some of the track intros. I then converted to flac.


Marin County Cowboys



Booklet front Booklet back

Tracks
Disc 1
1.Avalon Ballroom Radio spot0:34
2.Stand By Me4:00
3.Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You4:43
4.Pride of Man3:55
5.Smokestack Lightning6:20
6.Codeine5:24
7.Gold and Silver2:15
8.Hoochie Coochie Man 5:06
9.If You Live3:18
10.Too Long3:17
11.Who Do You Love6:05
12.Walking Blues3:13
13.Codeine5:10
14.You Don't Love Me2:45
15.Duncan & Brady2:56
16.Instrumental2:59
17.Dandelion2:13
18.If You Live6:36
19.Hey Mama (Keep Your Big Mouth Shut)2:25
20.Camaro Radio Spot1:20
Total74:44
Disc 2
1.Blues Jam8:59
2.Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You6:01
3.Mona6:39
4.Maiden of the Cancer Moon / Calvary10:49
5.Light Your Windows3:06
6.Song Intro0:20
7.Dino's Song3:18
8.Backdoor Man4:42
9.Who Do You Love Suite26:32
10.Edward The Mad Shirt Grinder7:38
Total78:06

D1, Tracks 1-8: Avalon Ballroom, San Francisco - September 9, 1966
D1, Tracks 9-13: Pacific High Studios, San Francisco - 1966
D1, Tracks 14-17: Matrix, San Francisco - March 19, 1967
D1, Track 18: Monterey Pop Festival - June 17, 1967
D1, Track 19: Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco - September 14, 1967
D1, Track 20: venue, date not stated
D2, Tracks 1-2: Fillmore West, San Francisco - November 7, 1968
D2, Tracks 3-5: Fillmore West, San Francisco - November 8, 1968
D2, Tracks 6-8: Fillmore East, NYC - June 7, 1968
D2, Track 9: Extra Long Version TRT - Studio & Live - 1968
D2, Track 10: Winterland, San Francisco - January 31, 1968


Personnel
John Cipollinaguitar & vocals
Gary Duncanguitar & vocals
David Freibergbass & vocals
Greg Elmoredrums
Jim Murrayvocals
Nicky Hopkinspiano


[Booklet notes]

If you've bought this CD you're probably familiar with the Quicksilver saga. A little background may be appropriate, however. The embryonic Quicksilver formed in late '64, nominally as a back up band for itinerant folkie Dino Valente. Unfortunately (or not) Valente got busted and was sent to jail, leaving the band, which comprised John Cipollina, guitar; Jim Murray, guitar/vocals/harmonica; Casey Sonoban, drums; Skip Spence, guitar; and David Freiberg, bass, on their own.

Without much motivation, they occasionally rehearsed at the Matrix, where, in the summer of '65, Marty Balin poached Spence for the Airplane and turned him into a drummer. By the fall Of 65 Sonoban had drifted off and Freiberg was also busted and headed off to jail. Around this time the San Francisco scene was getting started, and at one of the early dances Cipollina and Murray met Greg Elmore and Gary Duncan from an East Bay band called the Brogues. Elmore was a drummer, and Duncan played a little guitar, and they agreed to join up with Murray and Cipollina, along with Freiberg, who was due out of the slammer before the end of the year.

It was this line-up that became Quicksilver Messenger Service. After a slow start they gradually became house favorites at the Fillmore and the Avalon. So what better way to start this CD than with a very rare radio commercial for a Quicksilver show at the Avalon - specifically November 25-26, 1966.

One of the many problems surrounding old tapes that circulate among fans is whether the listed recording date (if there is one at all) is correct. Such is the case with the first batch of songs on this CD, where a close scrutiny of the material suggests that the accepted date is wrong. The tape in question, purporting to be from the Avalon Ballroom September 9, 1966, usually of poor sound quality, has been around for years. A new and vastly superior-sounding tape was located for this CD, but no new information about its origins was available. So the question remains: When and where was it recorded?

Although there is no internal evidence to suggest the venue, the Avalon is actually a good bet - QMS played there over seventy times and a great many Avalon shows were recorded by the Avalon's soundman, Bob Cohen. The date, however, is more problematic. Quicksilver did indeed, play there on the night in question, but there are several reasons to wonder whether the tape comes from that show.

Most significant is the fact that Jim Murray was still in the band in September '66, and yet he does not appear on the tape at all. Also, the band sounds much tighter and better rehearsed than it did during Murray's tenure with them. And although Duncan plays nothing but tambourine on a couple of tracks, he is clearly playing much more guitar than he did when Murray was around. They sound, in effect, like a quartet rather than a quintet with one member taking the night off.

Assuming it was recorded post-Murray, who left around October '67, then the performance was recorded at least a year later than previously thought. But without any more definitive information, it's impossible to be precise. The only further clue is that "Smokestack Lightning" is much shorter than the 15-minute epic it became in '68. Consequently, my feeling is that the real, if still vague, date is probably late '67 or early '68.

Although it leaks the long jams with which the band later became associated, the Avalon tape is still a fine example of Quicksilver's work, full of shimmering guitars, subtle tempo changes and

[Photo of the band on stage: Duncan, Freiberg, Elmore, Valente, Cipollina]

impassioned vocals. It starts with "Stand By Me," one of two Valente numbers recorded by the band before the singer-writer became a full time member in 1970, The song became the A side of a (then) non-album single backed by the atypical, but fun, "the Bears."

"Babe I'm Gonna Leave You," "Codine," and "Pride of Man" were all songs that David Freiberg had sung during his pre-QMS folkie period and subsequently brought to the band. While versions of all three were performed by other artists (notably Led Zep's version of "Babe") Quicksilver's renditions remain definitive. All three were recorded by them, the first two appearing on the soundtrack of the documentary Revolution. (As an aside, it's worth noting that Quicksilver's all too brief appearances in the film were shot at the Fillmore while Murray was still a member, whereas the re-recorded versions that appear on the soundtrack album were cut after his departure.) "Pride of Man" became a centrepiece their first album - although whether the addition of the Electric Flag horn section was a good idea is still a matter of debate. The song appears here in all its unadorned glory.

"Smokestack Lightning" and "Hoochie Coochie Man" are, of course, blues classics originally recorded by Howlin' Wolf and Muddy Waters respectively, but subsequently covered by just about every white blues band, especially the English ones. Although both are treated to the Quicksilver sound, only "Smokestack Lightning" really takes off, and even then it's only a pale shadow of what the number would become by mid-68.

The remaining track, "(Acapulco) Gold and Silver," is the only original performed by the band on the Avalon tape. Co-written by Gary Duncan and QMS roadie Steve Schuster (with an unacknowledged nod to Dave Brubeck's jazz classic "Take Five") the instrumental became a cornerstone of the band's live act. From time to time, at gigs, Schuster would actually play sax on it, an addition that worked extremely well - better, in fact, than the ersatz funky sound the horns achieved on the album version of "Pride of Man."

Next up is a selection of five tracks that undoubtedly feature Jim Murray (he sings on most of them), although, again, exactly when and where (or indeed, why) they were recorded is a small mystery. They are obviously studio cuts, but whether they constitute the last recordings the band made for Vanguard or demos they cut for Capitol prior to signing with that label is not known. Although three of these tracks (Mose Allison's "Your Time Will Come," Bo Diddley's "Who Do You Love?" and Robert Johnson's "Walking Blues") were included on the recent official QMS CD, Lost Gold and Silver, the decision was made to include them here, since our tape source was obviously much closer to the original than Lost Gold and Silver, leading to vastly superior, if not actually perfect, sound quality. Though these tracks may lack the spark of live performance, they are of undoubted historical interest.

The demos are followed by four tracks culled from the band's March 19, 1967 show at San Francisco's tiny but important Matrix club - a date and venue that are probably correct. The tracks for their rarity, and, although the band may have performed all four at other times, these are the only known QMS versions of them, The first is bluesman Willie Cobbs' "You Don't Love Me," a song much better known in a variety of cover versions (John Mayall, Kaleidoscope, Al Kooper/Mike Bloomfield, ad The Allman Brothers) than in its original form. "You Don't Love Me" is followed by a version of "Duncan and Brady," a folk classic probably best known in the early 70's version by the New Riders. The third track is an instrumental of unknown title that is probably a group original. The fourth, "Dandelion," may also be an original, but it could just as easily be an obscure old blues number.

The Matrix tape certainly includes Murray, as does the next song, another version of "Your Time Will Come," which comes from the band's set at the Monterey Festival, June '67. It's probably the best song they performed that day, in a show, that, in general, the band members usually choose to forget. They were so disenchanted with their performance, they refused to sign the relevant releases; a state of affairs that led to their absence from the Monterey Pop movie.

The last actual song on CD 1 is another rare cover, version, "Mamma Keep Your Big Mouth Shut," written by Jimmy Duncan and Alan Klein, but most associated with The Pretty Things, who included it on their first album. The remarkable thing about this version, taken from a September 14,1967 Fillmore Auditorium show, is that it doesn't sound like Quicksilver at all. But it is - really!

The last track on CD 1 is another rare jingle, this time for Camaro cars. Unlike the Avalon commercial, it actually features the band playing and the voiceover is allegedly that of Ron Polte, the band's manager. According to David Freiberg, however, the jingle was rejected by the company and never actually used,

All but one of the tracks on CD 2 are soundboard recordings from the band's golden era - the latter half of 1968. During that brief six- month spell, QMS were at their tightest and most innovative, able to carry off half-hour versions of 'Who Do You Love?" with ease. It quintessential San Francisco acid rock with added elements of traditional Spanish and Indian musics. Unlike many of their contemporaries, they actually managed to capture their sound on record. Happy Trails, their one album from this period, remains one of rock's finest moments.

Most of Happy Trails was recorded live at both the west and east coast Fillmores, and although the resultant album features the cream of their live act, the fact that it was only a single album meant that some great material had to be overlooked. The first five tracks on CD 2 are selected from the unused cuts. The first actual song is a stunning version of "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You." More interesting, though, is the lengthy untitled instrumental (quite possibly an improvisation) that precedes and segues into the song. The whole piece comes from the evening of November 11, 1968, the first of a four-night stand at the Fillmore West that was recorded for the album. Tracks three through five come from the following night, and although all three numbers ("Mona", "Maiden of the Cancer Moon," and "Calvary") were used on Happy Trails, these are alternate versions. Most interesting is this version of "Calvary," the album version of which was the only studio cut on the album.

Mention should be made of track eight on this CD. It, too, comes from one of the nights recorded for the Happy Trails album, although which night is not known. (In fact, it may well derive from one of the Fillmore East shows.) Clearly, this "Who Do You Love?" bears more than a passing resemblance to the one on the album. As far as I can tell, however, it's a complete unedited take, unlike the final album version, which was an amalgamation of several performances.

The '68 live tracks are rounded out by three songs recorded on June 6th at the Fillmore East, namely the Duncan/Freiberg original, "Light Your Windows," "Dino's Song," and Willie Dixon's "Back Door Man." While these may be in-house recordings, the sound (not to mention the musical) quality is as good as the November cuts, thus inferring that they are official eight- (or even sixteen-) track recordings. It thus begs the question: Why were extracts from this show not issued at the time? We will probably never know.

Less than two months after the November Fillmore West shows Gary Duncan quit the band and, along with Dino Valente, headed for New York in what proved to be a fruitless attempt to form a new band. The remaining Quicksilver members languished throughout 1969, managing only one gig, although they did cut the rather lacklustre Shady Grove with new member, pianist Nicky Hopkins. At the end of the year, Duncan and Valente returned just in time for the New Year's show at Winterland. After much pleading, Duncan and Valente were allowed to rejoin the band for that gig, and a soundboard recording of it still exists.

We have included one track, a stunning version of 'Edward The Mad Shirt Grinder' (the studio version is the one really good track on Shady Grove) that demonstrates, if nothing else, the excellent musical rapport between Cipollina and Hopkins. But for unknown reasons, Duncan is buried in the mix, and Valente may not be playing on this track at all.

Duncan and Valente stayed on, and the band returned to a full gig schedule. The new six-piece QMS may not have been quite as spectacular as the '68 band, but for a while (at least as long as they could keep Valente in check) they were still one of the finest groups in the country.

- March 2000, Philo Calhoun



"The Fool" Outtakes & Rehearsals, Capitol
Studios, SF, December 9th, 10th & 11th 1967

As circulated via DimeADozen by 38f, July 2006

Tracks
1.The Fool take 7 + 6 inserts for take 912:58
2.The Fool take 3 +14:49
3.The Fool instrumental version take 4 * (unbelivable version)9:11
4 - 9.The Fool takes 1, 2, 5, 6 inserts for take 94:58
1:05
6:37
0:54
5:05
7:35
10.The Fool take 914:40
Total77:58


Complete tape, uncirculated in this form, Soundboard

+ Sid Page on violin
* Possibly David LaFlamme is the guy that plays violin, but unconfirmed

I took forever, weeks of researches to exactly configure this reel to reel tape, that i had there laying down... well, this is the mother tape of all the other tapes circulating as "1st lp outtakes". I had a dozen of tapes as "1st lp outtakes", so i checked them one by one, including the recent one circulating in different Cipollina's trees as JC master #80. Well i found out that all those versions of the Fool, are taken from this tape, and this is the only tape that have all them together ! So probably it happened that in the years somebody took pieces from this tape and mixed those versions with the other songs of the 1st lp. I'm sure of this cause the 1st lp was recorded piece by piece between late 1967 and early 1968, and they had different days and months in which they were rehearsing and recording 1 particular song, so the point is that there are whole tapes with the recording of each song, but all the tapes in circulation were assembled taking songs from a lot of different tapes. So, for example, the session of the fool for the album official release took place December 19th 1967, so the date i had on the reel to reel box make sense, even if it is not certain. Hope i gave you something to enjoy and discuss about it...

First generation reel to reel (revox) > amplifiers > tascam audio cdrw750 > cd > computer > plex tool professional XL > wav > flac.

No EQ was used this time, tape not needed any......just a raw recording like it originally was done.

Transfered, remastered & uploaded by 38f on Dime 2006.




Winterland, SF, 29-Dec-67

As circulated via DimeADozen, March 2006

Tracks
1.Bill Graham Intro -> Who Do You Love? [9:49] [0:57]
2.Codeine [5:41] [0:33]
3./ Gold & Silver [12:55] [0:58]
4.Babe I'm Gonna Leave You [5:03] [0:11]
5./ Walkin' // Blues [3:44] [0:10]
6./ Too Long [3:39]
Total43:42


Howdy folks, Thought I would share this very hard to find QMS show. The sound is pretty poor, but it's the best circulating, which it barely is. In a day or two, I will upload the Dec. 30 1967 show too, so stay tuned! My endless thanks to Jjoops for sharing this one!

12/29/67 : MAR > R > 2C > CD > Plexwriter PX-W4824A extraction (EAC v0.9 beta 4) > editing (SF Studio 6.0) > sector boundary verification (shntool v1.01) > .shn encoding (mkwACT v0.97 beta 1). EAC > SHN by Joe Jupille (jjoops AT attbi DOT com)

WAV > CDR > WAV > EAC > FLAC by Tom Shyman (amellowsoul@happyhippie.com)

jjoops Comments: - This is not an excellent recording by any stretch. Apparently the stated lineage is better than what is generally available. While I trust the person from whom it came not to misrepresent the lineage, I can't be sure that this is correct, either. In short, "caveat auditor". - Graham's intro: " [inaudible] of the San Francisco scene, and one of the very best anywhere, the Quicksilver Messenger Service." - The "Happy Chanukah" comment before Babe I'm Gonna Leave You gives strong credence to this date for this show, since 12/29/67 was indeed during Chanukah (http://www.hebcal.com/hebcal/). - There were lots of fairly loud pops in the source recording. I couldn't tell whether they were digital in nature. Wherever possible I tried to edit them out. There remain a good number of pops, clicks, static, etc. - This is a mono recording - Gold & Silver clips in - Walkin' Blues clips in, cut/splice @ 0:49 - Too Long clips in

amellowsoul Comments: As far as I am aware, the SHN version of this show never circulated according to Joe. Quite a few years ago, before I was able to SHN/FLAC, Joe was kind enough to send me an audio copy of this show. It was this audio copy is the one that I ran thru EAC and turned into FLAC. My many thanks to Joe for sharing this very rare QMS show.


Winterland, SF, 30-Dec-67

As circulated via DimeADozen, March 2006

Tracks
1.Intro -> Smokestack Lightning [11:37] [0:07]
2.If You Live [4:29] [0:16]
3.Dino's Song [3:15] [0:16]
4.Back Door Man [4:14] [0:16]
5.Pride of Man [3:54] [0:06]
6.The Fool [14:57] [0:09]
Total43:42


12/30/67 : MAR > R > 2C > CD > Plexwriter PX-W4824A extraction (EAC v0.9 beta 4) > editing (SF Studio 6.0) > sector boundary verification (shntool v1.01) > .shn encoding (mkwACT v0.97 beta 1). EAC > SHN by Joe Jupille (jjoops AT attbi DOT com) WAV > CDR > WAV > EAC > FLAC by Tom Shyman (amellowsoul@happyhippie.com)

jjoops Comments: - This is not an excellent recording by any stretch. Apparently the stated lineage is better than what is generally available. While I trust the person from whom it came not to misrepresent the lineage, I can't be sure that this is correct, either. Just about every song clips in. The gaps and/or ticks at track markers are not sector boundary errors on the CDs, but seem to be from the source tapes. There are a fair number of ticks, clicks and static throughout the recording. It is not as bad as the night before from this source, but it's still there. In short, "caveat auditor". - Introduction, not by Bill Graham: "[inaudible] evening let's welcome Quicksilver Messenger Service." - End of show comments: "Thank you. Goodnight. Thank you. We'll see you tomorrow night. Be careful."

amellowsoul Comments: As far as I am aware, the SHN version of this show never circulated according to Joe. Quite a few years ago, before I was able to SHN/FLAC, Joe was kind enough to send me an audio copy of this show. It was this audio copy is the one that I ran thru EAC and turned into FLAC. My many thanks to Joe for sharing this very rare QMS show.


Coyote Canyon

booklet front booklet back



Tracks
1.Dino's Song3:43
2.Acapulco Gold and Silver5:07
3.Light Your Windows2:33
4.I Hear You Knocking4:01
5.The Fool14:27
6.Fresh Air7:58
7.What About Me6:13
8.The Hat10:22
9.Mojo6:11
Total63:55

Tracks 1-5: Outtakes from first LP, 1967
Tracks 6-9: Live Broadcast from San Francisco, Fall 1971



Dr. Sunday's Medicine Show, Family
Park, San Jose, CA, October 8, 1967



Tracks
1.Dino's Song3:12
2.Back Door Man3:55
3.Light Your Windows *3:51
4.It's Been Too Long3:10
5.Who Do You Love?7:32
6.Gold and Silver *11:08
7.The Fool9:06
Total41:57


Benefit for The Haight Ashbury Medical Clinic

AUD > ?unknown gen? > ?unknown digital process? > CDR > EAC > FLAC

* - With Steve Schuster on flute & sax!

Tom Shyman: "A quite rough sounding show for sure, but it's rarity is worth it for collectors. Also, if you can get beyond the sound, there is some very cool surprises. First off, Steve Schuster (co-writer of 'Gold And Silver') plays sax and flute on an instrumental version 'Light Your Windows'. Also, 'The Fool' is played in a great very raga version. Smoke enough and maybe the rather poor sound will disappear."

Part(?) of this show is circulating as filler to the Avalon 21-Oct-66 show

Dr. Sunday's Medicine Show, Family
Park, San Jose, CA, October 8, 1967

As posted via DimeADozen, February 2007



Tracks
1.Dino's Song 3:28
2.Back Door Man 3:59
3.Light Your Windows * 3:59
4.It's Been Too Long 3:18
5.Who Do You Love? 8:01
6.Gold And Silver * 11:11
7.The Fool 9:19
Total43:15


Benefit for The Haight Ashbury Medical Clinic

* with Steve Schuster - flute & sax

This recording is from the same original source recording as the previous seed of this show

However this new seed is an upgrade for the following reasons:

1. This one has none of the ringing in the sound that's in the previous seed.

2. The previous seed had low levels in the left channel, this one has both channels with good levels.

3. The new seed is longer: 43:15 instead of 41:56, with the first song now complete.

4. This copy has better more precise lineage, being a transfer from a PCM Beta digital copy of John Cipollina's reel of this show.

Though a bit hissy, I consider this to be a very good audience outdoor recording, especially for 1967. Check the sample with a similar section sample from the previous seed to get an idea of how this sounds. Hopefully the upgrade will be apparent even comparing mp3 samples, but either way, I am fairly certain that all will agree after download that this copy sounds better and not at all "icky" as the previous upload of this show was described as by the seeder.

Some consider John Cipollina's reels to be masters but that cannot be certain in most cases. Since the previous info claimed that the master was "taped on 3 inch reels by a then young teenager, Tom O.", Cipollina's reel might then be assumed by some to be a 1st gen. copy but of course that cannot be known for sure either. Nevertheless, this does sound like a low gen. copy.

Lineage: AUD > ?? > John Cipollina's reel > PCM Beta tape > Pro Tools [minor "nip and tuck" edits, normalization & tracking] > AIFF files > xACT [Flac level 8 files with sector boundaries verified]. md5 file created with checkSUM+.


Live Late 1967, Unknown venue



Tracks
1.Instrumental7:08
2.Pride of Man3:54
3.Who Do You Love?9:53
4.If You Live4:17
5.It's Been Too Long3:26
6.Smokestack Lightning >10:09
7.Smokestack Lightning0:36
8.Babe I'm Gonna Leave You4:32
9.Acapulco Gold and Silver11:06
10.Dino's Song3:00
11.Back Door Man4:09
12.Mona 9:01
13.Everytime I See Her4:04
Total75:22



New Year's Eve '67-68

booklet outer



Tracks
1.Who Do You Love9:56(E. McDonald)
2.Instrumental Blues7:07(Q.M.S.)
3.Smokestack Lightning10:21(C. Burnett)
4.It's Been Too Long4:32(R. Polte)
5.Back Door Man4:15(W. Dixon)
6.Dino's Song3:07(D. Valenti)
7.Mona9:04(E. McDonald)
8.New Year's Eve10:17(Q.M.S.)
Total58:11

Recorded during concert performance at the Winterland, San Francisco, December 31, 1967


Release History
LabelCat NoCountryFormatDateNotes
Wild Bird RecordsWBR CD 891108CD1989


Winterland, San Francisco, CA, December 31, 1967 (watchit)

As circulated via DimeADozen, April 2008


Tracks
1.Instrumental7:46
2.Pride of Man3:53
3.Who Do You Love9:49
4.Your Time Will Come4:18
5.It's Been Too Long3:20
6.Smokestack Lightning10:25
7.Babe I'm Gonna Leave You4:43
8.Acapulco Gold and Silver-drum solo11:31
9.Dino's Song3:12
10.Back Door Man4:20
11.Mona8:18
Total71:36


"This is a decent audience recording of the Quicksilver Messenger Service. It was rescued from a mislabelled 1986 cassette, transferred using a Nakamichi BX-300 variable speed tape deck into my PC via an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 sound card. From there I did some EQ and editing in Adobe Audition 1.5. For whatever reason, side 1 of the tape (tracks 1-6) was at the right speed but side 2 (tracks 7-11) was at least 6% fast. I slowed it on the Nak and left the speed alone in Audition."

"By poking around on the web I discovered the exact same recording on "Wolfgang's Vault." Theirs is better in some ways and worse in others. They obviously used more EQ and noise reduction than I did. I also discovered a version of this show was previously seeded on Dime in March 2006 but that was a year before I joined and I've never heard it. Don't know if this is better or worse." - watchit

Winterland, December 31, 1967

As circulated via DimeADozen, March 2006


Tracks
Disk 1
1.Instrumental7:25
2.Pride of Man3:45
3.Who Do You Love9:28(E. McDonald)
4.If You Live 4:07
5.Too Long3:12(R. Polte)
6.Smokestack Lightning10:06(C. Burnett)
7.Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You4:42
8.Gold & Silver11:05
9.Dino's Song3:05(D. Valenti)
10.Back Door Man4:11(W. Dixon)
11.Mona8:53(E. McDonald)
Total70:04
Disk 2
1.Peepin' & Hidin'6:04
2.Ride This Train (?)26:41
3.You Don't Remember Me (?)8:58
Total41:45


AUD > ? > tape trade > cassette > eurorack MX 802A professional equalizer > philips standalone burner CDR560 > cdr audio > EAC > wav > COOLEDIT > wav > flac

remastered and transferred and artworked by yours truly pgl

well, here is my version of this rather rare and not much circulated show.
through my trading years, i had collected several versions of this show, plus the elusive final jam, featuring, among others, dino valenti. jorma kaukonen and janis joplin.
what you have here, is the result of a long, painful work of cut, paste and restoration. i have used the best portions available of the various sources (7 in all). after that, i have done a restoration job using analog equalizer and cool edit. the result, to my ears, is satisfactory, but you'll be the judge.
for the sake of precison, here is more or less the various combinations:
cd1, track 1-2 source 1, track 3-6 source 2, tracks 7-10 source 3, track 11 source 4
cd2, tracks 1-2 source 1. track 3 source 2
but what maters is music, and here you not only find the quick in great shape, but also, as i said, some precious bonus such as the vocals of dino on track 2 of the final jam, not to mention janis.
i have attached here some sound samples.
as usual, cover art included
as usual, enjoy, share and preserve.


Personnel
John Cipollinaguitar
Gary Duncanguitar, voc.
David Freibergbass, voc.
Greg Elmoredrums
Guests on Disc 2:
Janis Joplin
Dino Valenti
Marty Balin
Jorma Kaukonen
Jack Casady


Winterland, San Francisco, CA, December 31, 1967 (rbbert)

As circulated via DimeADozen, October 2008


Tracks
1.Jam7:45
2.Pride of Man3:56
3.Who Do You Love10:00
4.Your Time Will Come4:22
5.It's Been Too Long3:24
6.Smokestack Lightning10:40
7.Babe I'm Gonna Leave You4:54
8.Gold and Silver11:54
9.Dino's Song3:17
10.Back Door Man4:28
11.Mona / Maiden of the Cancer Moon9:45
Total74:27


unknown AUD > ? > reel > reel > DAT > CD > EAC

Adobe Audition for EQ and pitch correction>FLAC 8

This is a new transfer, IMO quite a bit better sounding than other versions now on Dime. I'm fairly sure the ? in the lineage above is the master tape (Uher reel?), although there could be one more reel gen than is listed.

The pitch correction was fairly radical, with the last 4 songs songs being a full semi-tone (6%) sharp compared to the first 7 songs. EQ was fairly mild, mostly volume adjustments to more closely balance the channels (although I'm pretty sure this was a mono tape to start with).

Winterland, San Francisco, CA, December 31, 1967

Wolfgang's Vault version, found at http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/quicksilver-messenger-service/concerts/winterland-december-31-1967.html


Tracks
1.Oree 7:25
2.Pride Of Man 3:45
3.Who Do You Love 9:28
4.If You Live 4:07
5.It's Been Too Long 3:12
6.Smokestack Lightning 10:06
7.Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You 4:42
8.Gold And Silver 11:05
9.Dino's Song 3:05
10.Back Door Man 4:11
11.Mona / Maiden Of The Cancer Moon 8:53
Total79:59



1968-01-00 Acetate + San Jose 1966 LP (watchit)



Tracks
1.Pride of Man3:59
2.Light Your Windows2:38
3.I Hear You Knocking3:06
4.Back Door Man3:51
5.Dino's Song2:55
6.The Fool13:47
Total30:16
 
7.All Night Worker3:43
8.Walkin' Blues3:22
9.I Hear You Knocking3:38
10.Mona11:11
11.Your Time Will Come6:28
12.Smokestack Lightning10:00
13.Who Do You Love8:34
Total46:58


"Two LPs on one CDR. Both are European LPs from the mid '80s."

"Tracks 1-6 are from "First Album Demos," supposedly limited to 150 copies. There are many variations of first LP outtakes circulating but I think these are unique and not circulating at the moment. These are from an acetate and are different versions to the tape sources. The vocals are different and overall these sound wimpier to my ears. I believe this was recorded Jan. 1968 or thereabouts. I've included a portion of an interview with David Freiberg where he appears to be discussing this recording. He says it's the first version, which they rejected and redid. The acetate source is pretty crackly and several generations removed by the time it got pressed into this LP. The LP also contains two live songs from Quicksilver's 1976 reunion tour which I've omitted."

"Tracks 7-13 are from the LP "Live in San Jose California 1966." September seems to be added to the title as an afterthought. There doesn't seem to be any record of Quicksilver playing in San Jose in 1966, so I'm not sure of the exact date. It could be earlier than September, because they don't perform "Pride of Man" and other common songs, but the recording is incomplete so who knows. Jim Murray sings on more songs than usual too. Track 10 is specifically indicated as being October 1966, without Jim Murray, though he was still in the band at that time. These tracks are primitive soundboard recordings; the September tracks have the vocals too loud and the October track has them too quiet. This recording has been circulated over the years but I think the source has always been the LP. This is my attempt at a good transfer. Note that portions of this material circulate as a torrent dated 10/28/66 which I believe is incorrect; that torrent also includes material from other show(s)."

"Lineage for all tracks is ? -> LP -> Music Hall MMF-7/Ortofon OM-20 -> Adcom GFP-565 -> M-Audio Audiophile 2496 -> Adobe Audition 1.5 -> CD Wave
I was able to remove some surface noise from tracks 7-13; couldn't do much with 1-6." - watchit


San Jose Forum, February 13, 1968



Tracks
1.The Fool // 10:53
2.Who Do You Love9:48
3.// If You Live3:37
4.Smokestack Lightning9:21
5.Too Long 3:17
6.Back Door Man3:34
7.Dino's Song3:20
Total


Correct date may be February 3, 1968

WDYL is likely to be from a different show, as we hear them say it's Murray's last show, and he is thought to have left in late 1967


Venue unknown, ?February 1968



Tracks
1.The Fool // 10:54
2.// If You Live (Your Day Will Come)3:37
3.Smokestack Lightning9:21
4.Too Long 3:18
5.Back Door Man3:34
6.Dino's Song3:21
"Murray's Last Show", location unknown (see below), late 1967
7.Who Do You Love9:48
Total43:54


AUD? > ? > CDR > EAC > FLAC

This classic, but fairly hard to find recording goes under several different dates in 1968 and locations. Most dates seem to go in Feb. 1968, and I think that's probably a good spot for it. Locations vary from Carousel Ballroom to Matrix to somewhere in San Jose and "Murray's Last Show", of which I will explain below.

The recording circulates with a "WDYL?" on track #2, and with it's indeed Jim Murray. However, ears show this be a completely different show. The sound quality on it is much better, and it's SBD, compared to the rest of the recording which appear to be AUD. The AUD? recording sounds the tracks are indeed from the same show with the quartet QMS. Also, Jim Murray was gone easily gone by 1968.

So, I would guess is that someone down the line many years ago done this tracking order. In doing so, it probably is indeed a Feb. '68 show AND a track from Murray's last show, likely from mid-late '67. For Murray & "WDYL?" With that, I decided to move that "WDYL?" to the end of the CD now as the last track, #7. Maybe, and this is a big maybe, could the Feb. '68 material really be Carousel Ballroom, Feb 23, 1968 which is the only date I can conform by them outside the Quick & Dead tour of the Pacific NorthWest. We probably will never know.

I have to say the sound quality isn't so great, but it's not so terrible if one thinks of the equipment tapers had back then! The origin of these recordings isn't known. It might be possible someone, somewhere, has a cleaner or less gen. version. of this or if you have the rest of "Murray's Last Show", then by all means, share it with the rest of us. Also, in you EQ this recording, I request that you please let me and the others know.

For those that don't have this, you are in for a major treat. This is classic quartet blitzing away and blowing minds with some high class psychedelica, raunchy blues, and flower power pop. One of my all time favorate bands of all time in peak form!


KSAN, April 1968

As circulated via DimeADozen, March 2006

1ST & 2ND GIG, FM SBD, new transfer from reel to reel

* This tape is circulating as April 1st or 6th 1968. Nobody really know if the performances broadcasted by KSAN were exactly the same of the Winterland show from April 6th.

Tracks
Disk 1: 1st Gig
1.The Fool 13:26
2.Pride of Man 3:46
3.Walkin' Blues4:15
4.Light Your Windows 2:58
5.Who Do You Love13:02
6.Smokestack Lightning (fades out)5:01
Total42:30
Disk 2: 2nd Gig
1.The Fool 9:49
2.Who Do You Love8:58
3.Gold and Silver +13:11
4.Too Long + 3:23
5.Back Door Man4:02
Total39:26


Disc 2: The Fool (around m. 5:56 the sound is missing for 1 sec)

+ possibly the Saxophone player on those 2 tracks is Steve Schuster.

KSAN FM Broadcast.

1st generation reel to reel > behringer ultra curve pro deq 2496 audio equalizer > tascam audio cdrw750 > plex tool professional XL > wav > flac

"Since Tom S. and a couple of others asked me if i had a clean copy of this show, cause the ones circulating have various different problems, i took the occasion to dig out my original reel to reel of this show and to make a new transfer with the pro equipment i have those days... well i'm glad i did it, cause i forgot how good this show was and how great the sound quality is.... check out the samples and you will not be deluded......" - Fabio Nosotti


Carousel Ballroom, SF, 14-Apr-68



Tracks
Disk 1
1.Back Door Man4:48
2.Light Your Windows *5:33
3.Who Do You Love12:57
4.Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You5:08
5.Walkin' Blues5:40
6.The Fool //13:35
47:46
Disk 2
1.// Jam * ^41:50
41:50
Total89:36


Little Onion Tree #3

Master SBD > "Molly" C > DAT > CDR

"A very nice mix right from the beginning. Light Your Windows has microphone problems in the beginning. The Fool cuts out the master tape right very near the end. My guess would be only about 15 seconds missing. Jam cuts in.

* The sax & flute player in these is never introduced. However, the chances that it is Steve Schuster (friend of Gary's, co-writer of "Gold And Silver") are very high.

^ An unknown vocalist appears here and there on this jam, any help would be great!"


Fillmore East, New York, 7-Jun-68

38f version



Tracks
Disk 1 - Set 1
1.Smokestack Lightning10:46
2.Codine 6:39
3.Light Your Windows 3:35
4.Mona 11:49
32:54
Disk 2 - Set 2
1.Pride of Man 4:16
2.If You Live 4:16
3.Dino's Song 3:25
4.Back Door Man 4:26
5.Gold and Silver 12:25
6.Who Do You Love 12:20
7.The Fool 14:38
55:50
Total88:44


Opening for the Electric Flag

"STORY OF THIS SHOW

This show is always circulated with this date but the content was an absurd mixture of different shows. Wrong version of this show still contains 11 tracks, but setlist starts with Pride of Man and finish with Mona, cause only the first 5 songs comes from the second set of this show, the rest is a miscellaneous from the night before and unknown sources. You can easily understand that listening to it, cause there is no sequence or connection between songs, and the sound quality is different, but normally the wrong show setlist is reported on the better known setlist sites. Back in 1979, when I was in Mill Valley with John Cipollina executing producing the first Terry and the Pirates lp for my label, John was talking about this show, saying it was one of the best QMS show of that year. He came up with the set list of this show and he made a copy for me. Since then I'll search for it, and one day with the help of his brother Mario and some close friends we found a reel to reel of it. Now, after the precious remastering work of my friend Paul, I can finally share it in his original sequence and with a superb sound quality for the era." - Fabio Nosotti, May 2005

Personnel
John Cipollinaguitar
Gary Duncanguitar, voc.
David Freibergbass, voc.
Greg Elmoredrums



Fillmore East, New York, 7-Jun-68

davmar version



Tracks
Disk 1 - Set 1
1.Smokestack Lightning11:16
2.Codine 6:46
3.Light Your Windows 3:03
4.Mona > 6:20
5.Maiden of the Cancer Moon > 4:20
6.Mona 1:42
33:27
Disk 2 - Set 2
1.Pride of Man 4:08
2.If You Live 4:17
3.Dino's Song 3:41
4.Back Door Man 4:52
5.Gold and Silver 12:11
6.Who Do You Love 12:57
7.The Fool 13:51
55:57
Total89:24


SB MASTER REEL > REEL > REEL > M-AUDIO TRANSIT > COOL EDIT > CD WAVE EDITOR > TRADERS LITTLE HELPER > FLAC



Personnel
John Cipollinaguitar
Gary Duncanguitar, voc.
David Freibergbass, voc.
Greg Elmoredrums



Fillmore East, New York, June 7 & 8, 1968



Tracks
Disk 1
1.Pride of Man 4:08
2.If You Live 4:24
3.Dino's Song 3:35
4.Back Door Man 4:58
5.Gold and Silver 11:46
6.Smokestack Lightning11:08
7.Codine 6:42
8.Light Your Windows 3:02
Disc 1 Total49:48
Disk 2
1.Who Do You Love 13:39
2.The Fool 13:22
3.Mona 12:22
Disc 2 Total39:24
Total89:21

Track layout:
01 > 02 > 03 > 04 > 05 Beginning of 6/7/68 show
06 > 07 > 08 Middle of a set, night unknown
09 > 10 End of 6/7/68 show
11 End of 6/8/68 show

Notes: Quicksilver played two nights at the Fillmore East on June 7th and 8th of 1968, their first time playing in New York. Both nights Steppenwolf opened, Quicksilver played next, and Electric Flag headlined.


Personnel
John CipollinaGuitar
Gary DuncanVocals, Guitar
Greg ElmoreDrums
David FreibergBass, Vocals



Summer of '68



Tracks
1.Light Your Windows2:09(3:09)
2.Dino's Song3:37(3:36)
3.The Fool13:25
4.Who Do You Love12:48
5.Mona11:49(11:48)
6.Smokestack Lightning10:48
7.Codine6:01
8.Back Door Man4:30(4:19)
9.Acapulco Gold and Silver12:01(12:11)
Total78:20(78:10)


Track times are as shown on CD cover, with actual track time, where different, in brackets.
Times include between song chats.

This is probably a version of the Fillmore East shows of June 7/8, which also appear on Lost Gold & Silver.
Patrick has a page which discusses this in detail at Quicksilver Confusion.

Additional Details
Light Your Windows
Dino's SongOutro: Thank you ... thank you ... that's Dino's Song, written by a fellow named Dino Valenti.
The FoolSome hum & crackle at start, and crackle during some vocal sections
Outro: Thank you very much ... thank you ... we'll see you tomorrow if you can make it ... thank you ... thank you very much ... thank you ... Electric Flag will be right out
Who Do You Love / MonaVocals drop off during "Come on take [a little walk with me]"
WDYL Outro / M Intro: Thank you very much ... thank you ... thank you very much ... we got one more song to do ... thank you ... we ran out of time there we went too long ... thank you ... what can I say ... ok we'll do one more ... we need a guitar string we did pull a string in that ... yeah I just got a broken string ... we know one more so we'll do it I guess ... it's called uh I forget
Outro: thank you ... thank you (faintly)
Smokestack LightningIntro: Next tune's called Smokestack Lightning. It's primarily a dance tune, I dunno ... you can dance if you want to ... it's OK ... as long as you stay in your seat.
Outro: Thank you ... thank you ... thank you ... thank you ... thank you ... our next tune is an anti-drug song written by Buffy Saint-Marie called Codeine. It's about codeine, codine ... you know, cough syrup
CodineIntro: One, two, three, four...
Outro: Thank you (faintly) (tuning)
Back Door ManIntro: (tuning) This is called Back Door Man it's a Howlin Wolf uh ... "
Signature in vocals: "... shhhhot full of holes"
Outro: Thank you ... thank you ... thank you (faintly)
Acapulco Gold and SilverIntro: Alright, change it all around, do something really different, a song called Acapulco Gold & Silver, on our album it just says Gold & Silver for some reason, I don't know why.
Some hum, crackle, and volume variations early on. There is a drum solo.
Outro: Thank you


Personnel
John Cipollinaguitar
Gary Duncanguitar, voc.
David Freibergbass, voc.
Greg Elmoredrums


Release History
LabelCat NoCountryFormatDateNotes
Blue Knight RecordsBKR 33CD1993

Prairie Rose



Tracks
1.Back Door Man4:08
2.Gold and Silver11:50
3.Smokestack Lightning10:07
4.Dino's Song3:17
5.The Fool12:55
6.Who Do You Love12:00
7.Mona11:26


Live in New York, Fillmore East, June 1968

This is probably a version of the Fillmore East shows of June 7/8, which also appear on Lost Gold & Silver.
Patrick has a page which discusses this in detail at Quicksilver Confusion.

Release History
LabelCat NoCountryFormatDateNotes
World Production Of Compact MusicWPOCM 0289D015-2CD



Maiden of the Cancer Moon

Psycho LP

Tracks
A1.Back Door Man3:58?
A2.Codine6:09?
A3.Mona / Maiden11:23
B1.Acapulco Gold and Silver11:34?
B2.Smokestack Lightning10:02?
C1.Light Your Windows3:01?
C2.Dino's Song3:06?
C3.The Fool12:41?
D1.Who Do You Love12:00?
D2.Mona / Maiden11:13
NB Track list may not be accurate


Release History
LabelCat NoCountryFormatDateNotes
Psycho10UK2LP1983


Maiden of the Cancer Moon

CD-R version


Tracks
Disk 1
1.Back Door Man4:17
2.Codine6:14
3.Mona / Maiden / Mona11:36
4.Acapulco Gold and Silver12:03
5.Smokestack Lightning10:18?
Total44:30
Disk 2
1.Light Your Windows3:06
2.Dino's Song3:31
3.The Fool13:16
4.Who Do You Love12:22
5.Mona / Maiden / Mona11:59
Total44:16


Fillmore East June 1968


Cavalry

booklet outer
booklet outer
booklet outer
booklet outer
booklet outer



Tracks
1.Mona6:31(E. McDaniels)
2.Maiden of the Cancer Moon3:18(G. Duncan)
3.Cavalry7:13(G. Duncan)
4.Smokestack Lightning14:07(C. Burnett)
5.Stand By Me3:52(D. Valenti)
6.Cavalry7:45G. Duncan)
7.Happy Trails1:32(D. Eevans)
8.Won't Kill Me2:29(D. Freiberg)
9.All In My Mind3:51(G. Duncan/J. O.Farrow)
10.Good Old Rock'n'Roll2:37(J. O. Farrow)
11.What About Me Revisited3:53(J. O. Farrow)
12.Local Color3:00(J. Cipollina)
13.Mojo 8:02(D. Valenti)
14.The Hat 9:45(J. O. Farrow)
Total78:02


1/4 RECORDED LIVE AT FILLMORE WEST 1968
5/7 RECORDED LIVE AT GOLDEN STATE RECORDERS NOVEMBER 19, 1968
8/12 RECORDED LIVE AT WALLY HEYDER STUDIOS 1970 IN S. FRANCISCO
13/14 LIVE IN CALIBRATION SHOW 1971


GRAPHICS & DESIGN: CARLA SELLO


Personnel (as listed on CD)
John CipollinaGuitars1 - 14
Gary DuncanVocals & Bass1 - 14
Greg ElmoreDrums & Percussions1 - 14
David FreibergVocals & Guitars1 - 14
Nicky HopkinsPiano1 - 12
Dino ValentiVocals & Guitars1 - 12


Release History
LabelCat NoCountryFormatDateNotes
VultureCD012CD1990



Golden State Recorders, 9/12/68



Tracks
Items #45 and #295 from Cipollina's collection
Disc One
-- JC collection item/reel #45 --
01.Instrumental Tune Overdub w/ Drums 4:58
02.Talking & Tuning 2:43
03.Instrumental Tune Overdub w/ Trombone2:53
04.Instrumental Tune Overdub w/ Trombone2:16
05.Instrumental Tune Overdub w/ Trombone3:47
06.Talking & Tuning 7:57
07.Guitar Suite 1:36
08.Guitar Suite 9:43
09.Talking & Tuning 1:52
10.Instrumental Jam 5:26
11.Talking & Tuning 1:08
12.Gypsy in D Minor - Take 1 4:17
Total48:43
Disc Two
-- JC collection item/reel #45 (con't) --
01.Talk & Tune 3:45
02.Gypsy in D Minor - Take 27:03
03.Talking & Tuning (1) 1:04
04.Instrumental 1:57
05.Talking & Tuning 1:49
06.Instrumental 1:09
07.Talking & Tuning 3:00
08.Day Song #2 - Take 2 8:17
09.Talking & Tuning 4:55
10.Instrumental Jam 3:30
11.Talking & Tuning 6:13
12.Instrumental Jam 1:55
13.Talking & Tuning 1:37
14.Day Song #2 - Take 3 1:07
15.Day Song #2 - Take 4 0:39
16.Talking & Tuning 0:34
17.Day Song #2 - Take 5 4:43
Total53:28
Disc Three
-- JC collection item/reel #295 ("part 2" of rehearsals) --
01.Day Song #2 1:41
02."F-Sharp Thing" (Calvary)9:14
03.F-Sharp Instrumental 13:30
04.Talk 0:36
05.Stand By Me 4:12
06.Stand By Me 3:54
07.Stand By Me 5:27
08.Stand By Me 2:57
09.Stand By Me 5:53
10.Stand By Me 5:03
11.Stand By Me 5:44
12.Stand By Me 3:36
Total61:55


MSR? > Teac X-300R 1/4 R2R playback > unknown model HHB CDRW/0 > unknown drive extraction (Easy CD-DA Extractor) > tracking (CD Wave) > CD/1 (Easy CD Creator) > Plexwriter PX-W4824A extraction (EAC v0.9 beta 4) > sector boundary verification (shntool v1.01) > level 8 FLAC encoding (Flac Frontend v1.7.1 etree edition). EAC >> FLAC by jjoops.


Notes: - It is assumed that Cipollina's reels are masters, but there might be subsequent reel generations. This material sounds very nice. - What a pleasure it is to hear this stuff, especially everything from the middle of disc one ("Guitar Suites") on! There is just some wonderful music here and also some wonderful insight into the music that would end up on "Happy Trails", most notably Calvary. - (1) "why don't you come in here and smoke a joint" - What is included here as disc three is from reel/item #295. It is noted as part 2 of this date's rehearsals. The notations on the tape box, presumably Cipollina's, are as follows: Day Song #2 (Take 5) Con't from Tape 1 F# Instrumental (Takes 2,3,4,5) Stand By Me (Several Attempts - a couple complete & real good)

Thanks to the generous provider of this material!



Smokin' Sound

booklet outer



Tracks
1.Mona18:25
2.Smokestack Lightning15:01
3.Who Do You Love27:07
4.Suzy-Q4:44
5.(I) Get In Trouble *2:06N. Gravenites
6.Stand By Me4:18
Total71:41


Recorded live at the Winterland, San Francisco, CA, USA November 7-10, 1968
except * Golden State Recorders, San Francisco August '68

MONA:
Maiden of the cancer moon - tales of valvalry. Quicksilver regularly player Moon since late 1966. By the end of 1967 it had become a "jam" song that often lasted most of a 45 minute set. The Mona here is an excellent example of Quicksilver Messenger Service at it's best - exhibiting all the "psychedelic drama" they were famed for.
SMOKESTACK LIGHTNING:
This song has never been released although it was a staple in their shows from early 1966. By the time of this version they had the song crisply arranged for the twin lead guitar line-up they excelled at.
WHO DO YOU LOVE:
Another major staple of their shows since 1966. It, too, benefited through the years of jamming and stretching out to become a great half hour psychedelic voyage.
SUZIE Q:
A real favorite of the Band and it's fans since 1966. They never released this song. The pounding cowbell introduction always brought cheers as everyone rushed for the dance floor. A great and rare example of Quicksilver's great dance energy.
GET IN TROUBLE:
Recorded live in the Studio 8-20-68. Written by Nick Gravenites but never before released.
STAND BY ME:
This was the "A" side of a 45 rpm release. It was backed by Bears. This is an early Dino Valenti ballad.


Release History
LabelCat NoCountryFormatDateNotes
DinosaurDNS 9502CD



Smokestack Lightning

Artwork: booklet outer, booklet inner, inlay

Tracks
1.Mona6:33
2.Maiden of the Cancer Moon3:16
3.Cavalry7:13
4.Smokestack Lightning14:06
5.Stand By Me3:52
6.Cavalry7:45
7.Happy Trails1:32
Total44:21




1-4 recorded live at Fillmore West 1968
5-7 rec. at Golden State Recorders 19.11.68

1-3 completely different (16:30) to HAPPY TRAILS LP version
4 previously unreleased version (13:40)
5 previously unreleased out-take of Single A-side
6-7 previously unreleased out-take


Release History
LabelCat NoCountryFormatDateNotes
Moby Dick RecordsMDCD 002LuxembourgCD1989





Voodoo Perfume



Tracks
1.Mona18:24
2.Smokestack Lightning15:00
3.Who Do You Love27:07
4.Susie Q4:44
5.I Get In Trouble (*)2:05N. Gravenites
6.Stand By Me (*)4:15
Total71:39


The Winterland, San Francisco, California
7th - 10th November 1968 / Golden Gate Recorders (*)

An Aste'RISK-DISK' ReKording for Whistling Oyster ProduKtions ©1968

Release History
LabelCat NoCountryFormatDateNotes
Aste'RISK-DISKS'FYNE 007CD-R

Fillmore West, 7-Nov-68 (Thu)

As circulated via DimeADozen by propylaen, June 2006

Tracks
1.Blues Jam 8:57
2.Babe I'm Gonna Leave You 6:01
3.Mona 6:31
4.Maiden Of The Cancer Moon3:18
5.Calvary 7:13
6.Smokestack Lightning 14:07
7.Who Do You Love 27:02
8.Suzy Q 4:44
Total77:65


Silvers > EAC > wav > Cool Edit Pro > FLAC (L6)

Comments: Compiled from the following bootlegs:
Tracks 1-2 from "Marin County Cowboys"
Tracks 3-6 from "Cavalry" (sic!)
Tracks 7-8 from "Smokin' Sound"
 
Cool Edit Pro was used only for the following:
Tracks 1-2 level normalisation
Track 6 fade out
Track 7 fade in & left channel level adjustment
 
The Quicksilver Messenger Service's Fillmore West concerts from November 7-10, 1968 are well known as parts of them were used for their masterpiece "Happy Trails". Parts of these shows are floating around on various bootlegs, but there is not one that is near complete.
 
I just made a compilation from the various sources for a friend of mine and thought why not seed it here. Although this are all the tunes that are listed for Nov. 7th on www.setlist.com this is most probably still incomplete but as far as I know all that is circulating.


Personnel
John Cipollina
Gary Duncan
Greg Elmore
David Freiberg



Fillmore West, 7-Nov-68 (Thu)

As circulated via DimeADozen by kimo12fr, June 2006

Tracks
1.Blues Jam 8:55
2.Babe I'm Gonna Leave You 6:17
3.Mona > Maiden Of The Cancer Moon > Calvary17:27
6.Smokestack Lightning 14:58
7.Who Do You Love 27:05
8.Suzy Q 4:43
Total79:28


NOTE: This is not a remaster of the recent upload but a rip from a cdr received in trade years ago - timings are different and those tracks might have different edits or different speeds than on those compilation bootlegs which were used to rebuild the show on the other torrent - some bootlegs name those November 1968 / November 7, 1968 / November 10, 1968.... setlist.com has the same tracks and list it as Nov. 7, same as the cdr I got... tracks are in 2 blocks 01-02-03 ..//.. 04-05-06... it seems that crossfades were used between the tracks inside each blocks.
Uploaded to DIME June 23, 2006 by KIMO


Personnel
John Cipollina
Gary Duncan
Greg Elmore
David Freiberg



Babylon



Tracks
1.Codine4:55
2.Your Time Will Come3:03
3.Too Long3:12
4.Who Do You Love5:57
5.Walkin' Blues3:07
6.Dino's Song3:20
7.Acapulco Gold and Silver2:36
8.Light Your Windows2:39
9.I Hear You Knockin'3:19
10.The Fool14:45
11.Calvary6:31
12.Edward The Mad Shirt Grinder8:42
13.Joseph's Coat3:44
14.Holy Moly4:40
15.Shady Grove2:28
Total73:03


Tracks 1-5: Pacific High Studios, San Francisco, California, early 1967
Tracks 6-11: Continental Sound Studios, Hollywood, California, late 1967
Tracks 12-15: Out-takes from "Shady Grove" Sessions, 1969



Dedicated to Captain Babylon

Release History
LabelCat NoCountryFormatDateNotes
The Third Eye CD



Winterland, 31-Dec-68

As circulated via DimeADozen, January 2006

Tracks
1./ Light Your Windows3:06
2.Codine 6:24
3.Gold & Silver 12:13
4.Mona >
Maiden of the Cancer Moon >
Mona
11:56
5.The Fool /7:58
Total41:39


Cassette SB > CD-R

"this is not 12.31.68... this tape is in circulation with this and others 5 different dates and is taken from one of the common 68 shows....the real 12.31.68 that supposed to be and incredible 2 hours show never surfaced..." - 38F on DimeADozen


Studio Rehearsal with Dino Valenti, ?1969

Corte Madera, California, exact date unknown, probably 1969

Tracks
1.Subway1:45
2.I Know Your Rider take 1 5:49
3.I Know Your Rider take 25:53
4.Castles In the Sand8:31
5.Like a Bird2:16
6.Warm Red Wine3:31
7.Walk In Jerusalem2:47
8.Look Over Yonder Wall >
State Farm
3:52
9.Wake Up Dead Man part 15:34
10.Wake Up Dead Man part 23:30
11.I'm A Fool8:51
12.Senor Blues 6:31
Total58:55


Master reel to reel > eq > cd > plextor tool pro e. > wav > flac

Soundboard, superb recording, amazing stuffs, straight from John's master

NB Officially released April 2009 on Snapper as "Castles in the Sand"

Personnel
John Cipollina
Dino Valenti
Greg Elmore
David Freiberg
Nicky Hopkins



"Shady Grove" (song) Rehearsal, February 12, 1969

Tracks
1.Shady Grove
2.Shady Grove
3.Shady Grove
4.Shady Grove
5.Shady Grove
6.Shady Grove
7.Shady Grove
8.Shady Grove
9.Shady Grove
10.Shady Grove
11.Shady Grove
12.Shady Grove
13.Shady Grove
14.Shady Grove
15.Shady Grove
Total44:13


Reel/item #41 from Cipollina's collection

MSR? > Teac X-300R 1/4 R2R playback > unknown model HHB CDRW/0 > unknown drive extraction (Easy CD-DA Extractor) > tracking (CD Wave) > CD/1 (Easy CD Creator) > Plexwriter PX-W4824A extraction (EAC v0.9 beta 4) > sector boundary verification (shntool v1.01) > level 8 FLAC encoding (Flac Frontend v1.7.1 etree edition). EAC >> FLAC by jjoops.

Rehearsals on different aspects of the song Shady Grove

Come out and enjoy this little gem! This is early 1969, where Gary has gone for a year, to come back in 1970 with Dino. The band decided to try out Nick Gravenites. Life long friendships were made, but "Nick just didn't fit in for some reason" according Cipollina. A few months later, they got Nicky Hopkins and did the offical 'Shady Grove' album. Nick wasn't gone though. He produced it as well as wrote several lyrics for the songs!

Notes: - It is assumed that Cipollina's reels are masters, but there might be subsequent reel generations. This material sounds very nice, and is a fun listen.

Thanks to the generous provider of this material!


"Shady Grove" (album) Outtakes, 1969

Tracks
1.3 or 4 Feet From Home3:30(J. Cipollina)
2.Edward (The Mad Shirt Grinder)10:13(N. Hopkins
3.Joseph's Coat4:22(J. Cipollina & N. Gravenites)
4.Flashing Lonesome (instrumental)5:59(D. Freiberg & N. Gravenites)
5.Flute Song6:35(D. Jewkes)
6.Holy Moly5:55(N. Gravenites)
7.Words Can't Say3:38(D. Freiberg & D. Jewkes)
8.Shady Grove3:23(P. O. Wands)
9.3 or 4 Feet From Home (instrumental)3:08(J. Cipollina)
10.Too Far5:05(D. Freiberg)
Total51:47


? > Trade CD-R


"Edward's Dance" Studio Outs, 23/4-7-69

Item #31 from John Cipollina's collection

Tracks
Disc One
1.Edward4:43
2.Edward5:59
3.Silliness/craziness and self-medication5:50
4.Noodling5:41
5.ditty, Edward3:43
6.Edward, melodic jam2:45
7.Edward, food talk8:01
8.jazzy jam5:29
9.ditty, noodling (sort of like "Down by the River")2:21
10.noodling, Edward4:13
Total48:50
Disc Two
1.Edward4:57
2.Edward5:57
3.ditties, including Auld Lang Syne6:39
4.noodling6:21
5.Edward6:23
6.Edward3:24
7.Edward4:03
8.noodling, Edward5:13
9.Edward7:59
Total51:00
MSR? > Teac X-300R 1/4 R2R playback > unknown model HHB CDRW/0 > unknown drive extraction (Easy CD-DA Extractor) > tracking (CD Wave) > CD/1 (Easy CD Creator) > Plexwriter PX-W4824A extraction (EAC v0.9 beta 4) > sector boundary verification (shntool v1.01) > level 8 FLAC encoding (Flac Frontend v1.7.1 etree edition). EAC >> FLAC by jjoops.

Notes:
-Cipollina's reels are believed to be masters, but this is not 100% certain, hence the question mark. There is some occasional crackling (e.g., d2t03), and a few ticks in d2t03, and levels could be a bit higher, but generally this stuff sounds very nice.
-The material is really more "rehearsals" than outtakes, and it is both excellent (if you like "Edward", that is) and a lot of fun. I have just thrown together these track listings as a rough guide. None of these is a complete version of the tune, I don't think, but generally just practicing particular bits and pieces.
-Note I accidentally gave track names with "1968" rather than 1969. I manually edited the wav md5s after the fact, and also the flac filenames. If there are any problems with wav md5 verification, that's probably why.



"Edward's Dance" Studio Outs, 25-7-69
*John's Guitar Overdubs*

Item #42 from John Cipollina's collection

Tracks
Disc One (11 tracks, 49:26)
- no track listing
Disc Two (19 tracks, 62:14)
- no track listing


MSR? > Teac X-300R 1/4 R2R playback > unknown model HHB CDRW/0 > unknown drive extraction (Easy CD-DA Extractor) > tracking (CD Wave) > CD/1 (Easy CD Creator) > Plexwriter PX-W4824A extraction (EAC v0.9 beta 4) > sector boundary verification (shntool v1.01) > level 8 FLAC encoding (Flac Frontend v1.7.1 etree edition). EAC >> FLAC by jjoops.

Notes:
-Cipollina's reels are believed to be masters, but this is not 100% certain, hence the question mark.
-The material consists of Cipollina's guitar overdubs on various portions of the song "Edward", interspersed with various studio talk ("Hey John, is there any weed?", etc.)



Edward Overdub Sessions, 9/69

Tracks
Disc One
1.12:53
2.5:52
3.5:35
4.6:57
5.7:44
6.5:52
7.3:46
8.7:27
9.3:19
10.4:32
11.11:28
12.3:01
Total78:31
Disc Two
1.3:47
2.7:18
3.3:18
4.4:43
5.11:17
6.2:50
7.2:57
8.2:39
9.3:57
10.2:57
Total45:47



Edward Outtakes, Wally Heider Studios, San Francisco, CA, September 1969, Soundboard

Tracks
Disc One
1.13:06
2.3:13
3.2:48
4.1:19
5.2:52
6.2:06
7.1:38
8.4:53
9.2:47
10.5:50
11.4:55
12.4:56
Total50:26
Disc Two
1.3:01
2.3:51
3.2:12
4.1:49
5.6:49
6.4:43
7.2:56
8.3:42
9.5:22
10.3:20
11.8:13
12.1:41
Total47:41


This is a different session from the 4 cd's set from the July one.

First generation reel to reel (revox) > amplifiers > tascam audio cdrw750 > cd > computer > plex tool professional XL > wav > flac.

No EQ was used this time, tape not needed any......just a raw recording like it originally was done.

Transfered, remastered & uploaded by 38f on Dime 2006.


The Night They Closed The 60's Down

Tracks
1.Fresh Air7:37
2.Happy New Year3:49
3.Cobra 4:40
4.Mona9:29
5.Who Do You Love20:14
with Dino Valente & Gary Duncan
6.Mona 8:40
7.Mojo 7:43
8.Fresh Air 8:12
SF 1970
Total70:26


Fillmore West, San Francisco, 31st December 1969


Winterland, December 31, 1969

Early show

Tracks
1.Subway6:51
2.I Believe (aka Catching My Death, Sweet Situation)10:13
3.Words Can't Say3:31
4.Mojo6:30
5.Mona > applause8:51
6.City of Stone (aka Lady of the Night)7:33
7.Edward the Mad Shirt Grinder8:18
Total


NB 'I Just Wanna Make Love To You' was also played in this set.

Lineage: ? > CD-R received 4/02 > EAC > Wavs > FLAC Front End > FLACs

This came to me on a CD-R as 'QMS - Winterland, December 31, 1969' with 10 tracks. Tracks 8 - 10 are actually by Moby Grape from December 31, 1966

This set was part of a long New Year's Eve concert put on at the Winterland from 8pm to 6am by Bill Graham. Performers were: Hot Tuna, The Sons (of Champlin), QMS, New Years Jam (members of many of the bands), Jefferson Airplane, The Sons, QMS, Jefferson Airplane.

Cipollina, Duncan, Elmore, Freiberg, Hopkins, Valente


Fillmore East, 24 January 1970

Tracks
1.Pride of Man4:09
2.Subway 7:26
3.Shady Grove 3:06
4.Fresh Air + 5:57
5.Mona 6:46
6.Mojo 7:07
7.Joseph's Coat4:00
8.Edward the Mad Shirt Grinder7:11
9.Who Do You Love > * 12:28
10.Poor Boy 4:28
11.The Truth 5:51
Total68:34


+ slightly cut at the end
* some light static on the original tape

"Here we go again with the magical guitar of mr. John Cipollina... this show never circulated, it is a good audience recording, from one of my favorite QMS year 1970. I choose this in the middle of others because this is really worth the download. Even if the sound is not the best, the performance is great, is one of the few QMS shows from 1970 that does not start with fresh air and there is the Who Do You Love medley with Poor Boy, a song that qms performed only few times."

Personnel
Dino ValentiVocals, Guitar
Gary DuncanGuitar, Vocals
David FreibergBass, Vocals
John CipollinaGuitar
Nicky HopkinsPiano
Greg ElmoreDrums

Fillmore East, 24 January 1970

Tracks
1.Introduction (1) ->[0:05]
2.Pride of Man ->[4:03]
3.Subway [5:50] [0:08]
4.Tap dance banter, ditty & tuning (2) [1:28]
5.Shady Grove [2:55] [0:08]
6.Fresh Air// [5:57#] [0:02]
7.Mona [6:18] [0:31]
8.Mojo [7:00] [0:04]
9.... Joseph's Coat ->[#4:01]
10.Edward [7:07] [0:07]
11.Who Do You Love? ->[12:24]
12.Poor Boy [3:39] [0:51]
13.The Truth ... [5:50#]
Total68:32


MA? > ? > Cipollina's reel > C or R > unknown transfer setup > CD > Plexwriter PX-W4824A extraction (EAC v0.9 beta 4) > tracking (CD Wave v1.6) > slight editing (SF Studio 6.0) > sector boundary verification (shntool v1.01) > level 6 FLAC encoding (Flac Frontend v.1.7.1 etree edition).

Notes:
- This recording is oversaturated. You have been warned. But it's quite listenable, far from the worst QMS aud out there. No processing was done on the wav files except to remove a few obvious glitches and smooth a few harsh tape transitions. Some warts likely remain.
- (1) "From San Francisco, the sound that's gonna make the West wild, the Quicksilver Messenger Service."
- (2) "Gary'd like to do a little tap dance for you folks."
- t04 tick @ 0.568s removed
- t05 Shady Grove 1.696s repeated section removed from applause after song
- t06 Fresh Air cuts out not far from the end. I applied a 0.25s fade to each side of the cut so it isn't quite so jarring.
- t08 Mojo smoothed tape transition during applause after song.
- t09 Joseph's Coat fades in from source CDs
- Before Who Do You Love the tape quality changes. I am not sure if this is an alternate source or if the taper simply moved.
- t13 The Truth fades out from source CDs.


Thanks to Tom Shyman!


Family Dog, San Francisco, CA, February 7th 1970, early & late shows

As seeded via DimeADozen, March 2007

Tracks
Disc One: Early Show
1.Intro > Fresh Air (1 drop)7:48
2.Shady Grove3:18
3.Tabla Jam2:43
4.Don't Let it Happen to You6:33
5.Mona7:41
6.The Truth9:33
7.Joseph's Coat >4:12
8.Edward the Mad Shirt Grinder7:57
Encore:
9.Poor Boy8:14
Total58:02
Disc Two: Late Show
1.Intro > Jam > Pride Of Man6:48
2.Subway6:12
3.Gold & Silver16:46
4.Fresh Air5:57
5.Too Far3:49
6.Mojo6:18
7.Who Do You Love?19:49
Encore:
8.Poor Boy7:05
Total72:47


New transfer from uncirculated 1st gen. reel to reel, w. complete version of Edward

"Since the beginning there was an huge confusion about the date of this show, because part of this tape was circulating as February 6th, but with a wrong set list and wrong sequence, with a lot of drops between the songs. After many researches, i'm now pretty sure that the correct date is the 7th, day in which 2 shows took place. I finally found this reel to reel that i copied from John's vault, and i transfered it 2 days ago, and finally i can offer a remarkable upgrade of this audience recording, with the complete version of Edward, the correct sequence of the songs, no cuts, with the only exception of the usual tape problem (short drop) at a certain point of Fresh Air, that seems to be in the original version of this tape. Recording quality of the first show is a lot better than the one of the 2nd show."

1st generation reel to reel > revox > amplifiers > tascam audio cdrw750 > cd > computer > plex tool professional XL > wav > flac.

Transfered, & uploaded by 38f on Dime, March 2007.



Personnel
Dino Valenti
Gary Duncan
David Freiberg
John Cipollina
Nicky Hopkins
Greg Elmore

Civic Center, San Antonio, Texas, 21 February 1970

Tracks
1.Intro > Subway 6:27
2.Shady Grove 3:07
3.Fresh Air 5:50
4.Gold and Silver 12:43
5.The Truth 8:16
6.Pride of Man 4:34
Total40:58


1st generation reel to reel > behringer ultra curve pro deq 2496 equalizer > tascam cdrw750 > plex tool professional XL > wav > flac.



"This is one of the worst quality QMS' tape in circulation, practically inaudible... well, I finally found my first generation reel to reel tape, courtesy of Mr. Cipollina (back in 1980), and, at least, this terrible quality audience tape, sounds definetely better, even if is it still far to be good... this version never circulated, so you can give it a shot after you have heard the sound sample... the sound is still very distant, there is some hiss, but finally the music is much brighter compared to the versions in circulation. Is it a shame to have this with such a poor sound quality, cause it was a fantastic show... but I know that you QMS' fans are starving for something new, so you'll enjoy it anyway..."

Personnel
Dino ValentiVocals, Guitar
Gary DuncanGuitar, Vocals
David FreibergBass, Vocals
John CipollinaGuitar
Nicky HopkinsPiano
Greg ElmoreDrums

Winterland, 23 February 1970

Tracks
1.intro >
Fresh Air
6:31
2.Pride of Man4:47
3.Mona 8:48
4.Gold and Silver5:20
5.Mojo 7:29
6.Subway 7:32
7.Edward the Mad Shirt Grinder1:57
Total42:30


"Like good women, they just keep getting better all the time... the Quicksilver Messenger Service"
"F**k you"

In Fresh Air, Dino sings 'Sausalito sunshine' rather than the normal 'California sunshine'

Subway is continuous, with no cuts or restarts

Personnel
Dino ValentiVocals, Guitar
Gary DuncanGuitar, Vocals
David FreibergBass, Vocals
John CipollinaGuitar
Nicky HopkinsPiano
Greg ElmoreDrums

Winterland, 23 February 1970

As circulated via DimeADozen by davmar77, 9/06

poster
Tracks
1.intro 0:33
2.Fresh Air6:56
3.Mona 9:54
4.Gold and Silver17:53
5.Mojo 8:08
6.Subway 7:31
7.Edward the Mad Shirt Grinder8:04
8.// Pride of Man4:52
Total63:55


"Like good women, they just keep getting better all the time... the Quicksilver Messenger Service"
"F**k you"

In Fresh Air, Dino sings 'Sausalito sunshine' rather than the normal 'California sunshine'

i saw a request for some more quicksilver and a great fall 66 show was put up by amellowsoul. for my little contribution, i dug out the winterland feb. 23, 1970 show which is a great example of the 6 pc. lineup with dino valenti and nicky hopkins. apparently, most versions going around of this are mp3 sourced including a ban here recently.
so here's what i came across. i have 2 different versions of this on 2 reels that are over 30 years old. one was clean and full sounding but was missing a track. the other version wasn't quite as clean but included that track although that reel has suffered over time. i used my first version and filled in the missing track which was fortunately still ok on that copy. according to most listings, the missing track usually is the 2nd song of the set. on my first copy, there was no break or splice so i decided to add it on the end on this offer. you can place it where you want but rest assured you are getting as complete a version as there is. all info is in the file.


Personnel
Dino ValentiVocals, Guitar
Gary DuncanGuitar, Vocals
David FreibergBass, Vocals
John CipollinaGuitar
Nicky HopkinsPiano
Greg ElmoreDrums



Fillmore West, 23 February 1970



Tracks
1.tuning >
howls >
intro >
Fresh Air
7:44
2.Pride of Man4:54
3.Mona 10:07
4.Gold and Silver17:39
5.Mojo 7:38
6.Subway // > Subway8:56
7.Edward the Mad Shirt Grinder7:43
Total64:48


"Like good women, they just keep getting better all the time... the Quicksilver Messenger Service"
"F**k you"

In Fresh Air, Dino sings 'Sausalito sunshine' rather than the normal 'California sunshine'

Subway starts, cuts at 1:25 for 2 seconds of silence, then restarts from the beginning with slightly different sound

An Aste'RISK-DISK' ReKording for Whistling Oyster ProduKtions ©1970

Release History
LabelCat NoCountryFormatDateNotes
Aste'Risk-Disks'FYNE 008CD-R



Place de' Rehearsal, Corte Madera, California, March 4th, 1970



Tracks
1.Warm Red Wine4:44
2.May You Never Be Alone Like Me2:37
3.Take a Stick of Bamboo4:16
4.Copper Kettle4:39
5.The Moonshiner4:35
6.Strange Funny World5:59
7.Jam (including themes from Eleanor Rigby and My Favorite Things)3:53
8.It's Easy7:20
9.Where You Stayed Last Night4:44
10.Ramblin' Blues Jam7:45
11.A Minor Blues2:17
12.Peace of Mind 7:33
Total60:26


Soundboard recording straight from John's master

Master reel to reel > eq > cd > plextor tool pro e. > wav > flac

Personnel
John Cipollina
Gary Duncan
Greg Elmore
David Freiberg
Nicky Hopkins
Dino Valenti



Olympic Auditorium, LA, 21 March 1970

Version received on CD-R in 2004.



Tracks
1.Fresh Air 5:34
2.Warm Red Wine3:22
3.Too Far 3:35
4.The Truth 8:11
5.Mona 9:52
6.Rain 9:23
7.Mojo 8:08
8.Intro 0:13
9.Edward the Mad Shirt Grinder7:40
10.Encore 1:08
11.Who Do You Love //14:07
Total71:19


Originally produced in a 30-copy edition, with printed CD face, by Harold 'The Mercury Kid' Smith: "Supposedly from a band tape, but excellent sound quality whatever it's origins. I think it has the best (overall - sound quality, performance, balance, no glaring mistakes, etc) versions of David's wonderful song 'Too Far' and the unreleased songs 'Rain' and 'Warm Red Wine'."


Olympic Auditorium, LA, 21 March 1970

Version posted via DimeADozen, August 2010.



Tracks
Disc One:
1.Fresh Air 6:12
2.Warm Red Wine3:25
3.talk 0:31
4.Subway 3:35
5.Too Far 3:32
6.The Truth 8:27
7.// Mona 11:26
8.Rain 9:26
Total
Disc Two:
1.Mojo 9:17
2.Edward the Mad Shirt Grinder7:23
3.encore break 1:58
4.Who Do You Love24:59
5.final thanks and applause0:23
Total


Lineage: AUD > ECM-22P mic > Uher mono reel deck originally taped by Harv Kaslow and Craig Todd > ?? > Maxell UDXLII C90 > unknown recording deck [Dolby B encoded]

Transfer [2010-08-11]: Nakamichi Dragon (Dolby B decoded) > Macintosh with Digidesign Audiomedia III card > Pro Tools (minor "nip & tuck" edits, normalization & tracking) > AIFF > xACT (FLAC level 8 files with sector boundaries verified). No equalization or DNR.

This is from the same original source recording as the version circulated on CD-R in 2004.
However this version is an upgrade for the following reasons:
1. This one runs at the correct speed, while the previous runs too fast.
2. This one still is better sound quality when the speed on the previous is adjusted to the correct pitch.
3. This version is almost 20 minutes longer: 90:34 instead of 71:19, with one more song ("Subway") and the full 25 minute "Who Do You Love?" that was cut at 14 minutes into the previous version. The only breaks in this show now are at the very beginning of Mona and during the applause between "Rain" and "Mojo".
Very decent sounding audience recording with nice balanced mix - I wouldn't quite call it "excellent sound quality" as the previous version was described. And if anyone has an even better sounding copy of this show - please share it!


Personnel
John CipollinaGuitar
Gary DuncanGuitar, Vocals
Greg ElmoreDrums
David FreibergBass, Vocals
Nicky HopkinsPiano
Dino ValentiVocals, Rhythm Guitar, Congas



The Old Mill, Mill Valley, Marin County, March 29th, 1970

Tracks
Disc 1
1.Subway6:01
2.Subway2:07
3.The Truth9:12
4.John talks0:12
5.Mona8:39
6.Baby, Baby8:05
7.Rain 5:52
8.Mojo 7:58
9.Blues Jam #1 *7:58
Disc 1 Total56:07
Disc 2
1.Blues Jam #2 *15:04
2.Flip Flop * 16:39
Disc 2 Total31:43


"Easter Sunday Jam"

New source, never in circulation from my master stereo soundboard

Master reel to reel > equalizer > cd > eac > flac > wav

Absolutely one of the best 1970 shows, and on this new source, besides "Subway" that it was cut in 2 parts even on John's master tape, cause there were some recordings problems that day (they had some electricity problems, you can hear that during the show, sometimes the mics & guitars's plugs make a funny noise), the sound quality is really, really good.

Personnel
Dino ValentiVocals, Guitar
Gary DuncanGuitar, Vocals
David FreibergBass, Vocals
John CipollinaGuitar
Nicky HopkinsPiano
Greg ElmoreDrums
James CottonHarmonica, Vocals*



Stonybrook University Gym, NY, 04/4/1970

Tracks
Disc 1
1.//Baby Baby
2.Subway
3.Too Far
4.Warm Red Wine
5.The Truth
6.Mona
Total
Disc 2
1.tuning
2.Long Haired Lady
3.Mo // jo
4.Pride of Man
5.Edward the Mad Shirt Grinder
6.audience
7.Who Do You Love
Total
SB Master > 4th Gen Reel > Audio CD > Soundforge Extraction > CD Wave Editor > FLAC

Personnel
Dino ValentiVocals, Guitar
Gary DuncanGuitar, Vocals
David FreibergBass, Vocals
John CipollinaGuitar
Nicky HopkinsPiano
Greg ElmoreDrums



Winterland, San Francisco, CA, 04/15/1970

Tracks
1.Who Do You Love > 19:33
2.Who Do You Love 4:34
3.Who Do You Love 5:34
4.Mona 6:58
5.Long Haired Lady 6:43
6.Mojo 7:56
7.Edward, The Mad Shirt Grinder8:01
Total59:23


Personnel
Dino ValentiVocals, Guitar
Gary DuncanGuitar, Vocals
David FreibergBass, Vocals
John CipollinaGuitar
Nicky HopkinsPiano
Greg ElmoreDrums


Winterland, San Francisco, CA, 04/15/1970

Tracks
Disc 1
1.Subway 6:10
2.tuning, chat 1:22
3.Too Far 3:51
4.Warm Red Wine 2:56
5.tuning, chat 0:38
6.The Truth 7:54
7.tuning, chat 0:29
8.Mona 8:35
9.tuning, chat 2:19
10.Long Haired Lady 3:25
11.Mojo 3:40
12.Pride Of Man 4:07
13.tuning, chat 0:43
14.Edward, The Mad Shirt Grinder6:51
Total53:02
Disc 2
1.Who Do You Love > Jam > Who Do You Love29:29
Total29:29


Source: d1 - unknown sbd, d2 - unknown aud
Notes:
A BIG BIG thanks to Bill for the discs.
SIRMick, May 2005


Personnel
Dino ValentiVocals, Guitar
Gary DuncanGuitar, Vocals
David FreibergBass, Vocals
John CipollinaGuitar
Nicky HopkinsPiano
Greg ElmoreDrums


Winterland, San Francisco, CA, 04/15/1970

As seeded via DimeADozen, June 2005

Tracks
1.Mona 7:11
2.Long Haired Lady 6:40
3.Mojo 8:15
4.Edward, The Mad Shirt Grinder7:27
5.Who Do You Love 29:32
Total59:09


Personnel
Dino ValentiVocals, Guitar
Gary DuncanGuitar, Vocals
David FreibergBass, Vocals
John CipollinaGuitar
Nicky HopkinsPiano
Greg ElmoreDrums


Winterland, San Francisco, CA, April 15, 1970

Tracks
Disc 1
1.Subway 6:09
2.Too Far 3:51
3.Warm Red Wine 2:56
4.The Truth 7:53
5.Mona 8:34
6.Long Haired Lady 3:24
7.Mojo 3:40
8.Pride Of Man 4:07
9.Edward, The Mad Shirt Grinder6:51
10.Who Do You Love29:29
Total76:54


I don't have any information about the source, but sound quality is very good and it could be a soundboard (but I can't be sure).

Share and enjoy! Profesor Z

Personnel
Dino Valentivocal, guitar
Gary Duncanguitar, vocal
David Freibergbass, vocal
John Cipollinaguitar, vocal
Nicky Hopkinspiano
Greg Elmoredrums



The Old Mill, Mill Valley, Marin County, April 1970

Tracks
1.Subway
2.The Truth
3.Mona
4.Baby, Baby
5.Rain
6.Mojo
7.Blues jams with James Cotton
Totalc 90 mins


Personnel
Dino ValentiVocals, Guitar
Gary DuncanGuitar, Vocals
David FreibergBass, Vocals
John CipollinaGuitar
Nicky HopkinsPiano
Greg ElmoreDrums
James CottonHarmonica, Vocals



Hawaian Recordings (Rehearsal),
Opaglua Lodge, Oahu, Hawaii, June 4th, 1970

Tracks
1.Cobra 4:18
2.Tuning2:17
3.Cobra5:04
4.Chat1:06
5.Cobra5:04
6.omitted cause is just blank tape
7.Guitar Jam2:10
8 - 9.Won't Kill Me4:16
2:37
10.Drums1:29
11 - 17.Won't Kill Me2:05
0:59
2:26
2:24
0:16
2:38
2:09
18.Cobra Acoustic (1 channel only)1:08
19.Cobra Acoustic1:15
20 - 21.Won't Kill Me2:07
2:24
22 - 27.Won't Kill Me with Dino on vocals1:29
1:33
1:46
2:00
1:03
2:11
28.Just For Love4:59
Total62:38


Basically those are the rehearsals for Cobra and Won't Kill Me.

Spectacular soundboard studio recording never circulated before straight from a John's master that was given to me by him as a gift for my birthday. A copy of this tape was sent by me to SK some years ago, so it was a first generation tape, now i decided to share this master, cause it does not make any sense that other friends like all of you are cannot listen to this beauty. Obviously, being this tape a rehearsal , most of the songs are not complete and some drops are present sometimes.... you know the deal and enjoy it !

Master reel to reel > behringer ultra curve pro deq 2496 equalizer > tascam cdrw750 > plex tool professional XL > wav > flac.

Transfered & Uploaded by 38f on dime on December 26th 2005.


Red Vest, Oahu, Hawaii, 13-Jun-70

Tracks
1.Fresh Air7:02
2.Warm Red Wine4:21
3.Subway8:26
4.Pride of Man4:21
5.Baby Baby4:54
6.The Hat9:20
7.Freeway Flyer7:26
8.Mojo14:48
Total60:41


Little Onion Tree #3

Master SBD > "Molly" C > DAT > CDR

"Fresh Air has level fluctuations and extreme mixing going on for the first few minutes as the recorder set up. Once done, the recording mix and levels are excellent. There are a few small warts that are on the master tape, but it is nothing serious at all."


Fillmore West, July 10, 1970

As posted via DimeADozen, June 2005



Handbill

Tracks
Set 1
Disc 1
1.intro (1) > Fresh Air 5:47
2.Baby, Baby 4:41
3.Too Far 4:35
4.Long Haired Lady6:28
5.Mona 8:53
6.Freeway Flyer 5:50
Set 2
7.Subway 5:03
8.The Truth 8:10
9.Warm Red Wine 5:03
10.chat (2) > tuning > Pride of Man5:05
11.What About Me 6:44
12.Take It Easy 4:59
Total71:23
Disc 2
1.Mojo 8:05
2.tuning > chat (3) > The Hat7:45
Encore
3.Who Do You Love28:11
Total44:02


Complete soundboard version from master

(1) "If you had to wait forever, it would be worth it for Quicksilver Messenger Service."
(2) "Turn it up turn it up thank you whenever anyone's singing turn it up" audience screams "Here's one you'll remember."
(3) "This is a song on our next album, it's a kinda loose you know, it's called The Hat. Hope you like it."


Master Stereo Reel To Reel > Equalizer > CD > EAC > WAV > FLAC

From my point of view this is a really nice show from the 1970 Valenti era. This is the show for which Silver Metre opened (I uploaded their show last week). I used no dolby or noise reduction, when I transferred it, so you have some background noise, but on the other side the sound quality is more clear and brilliant.

Personnel
Dino Valenti
Gary Duncan
David Freiberg
John Cipollina
Greg Elmore


Fillmore West, July 10, 1970

Another version, audience, without Subway



Tracks
Disc 1
1.intro (1) > Fresh Air5:38 [0:29]
2.Baby, Baby 4:15 [1:05]
3.Too Far 3:40 [0:22]
4.Long Haired Lady5:40 [0:42]
5.Mona 7:31 [1:48]
6.Freeway Flyer 4:3 [0:03]
7.The Truth 8:07 [0:16]
Total44:29
Disc 2
1.Warm Red Wine 3:18 [0:53]
2.(2) Pride of Man4:17 [0:11]
3.What About Me 6:30 [0:24]
4.You Can't Come With Me4:35 [0:08]
5.Mojo 7:48 [0:17]
6.The Hat7:28 [0:11]
7.Who Do You Love28:24 [0:38]
Total65:05


MA? > ? > Cipollina's reel > C or R > unknown transfer setup > CD > Plexwriter PX-W4824A extraction (EAC v0.9 beta 4) > tracking (CD Wave v1.6) > sector boundary verification (shntool v1.01) > level 6 FLAC encoding (Flac Frontend v.1.7.1 etree edition).

Notes:
- This is a phenomenal audience recording for the period, and the show is quite a strong one.
- (1) "If you had to wait forever, it would be worth it for Quicksilver Messenger Service."
- (2) "Here's one you'll remember."
- d1t07 The Truth clips in with very little missing.
- d2t02 Pride of Man had a slight digi-tick @ 0:30 which was removed using SoundForge Studio 6.0. No other editing was performed.
- d2t07 Who Do You Love is hissier than the rest of the recording, sounds like at least one additional analog generation.


Personnel
Dino Valenti
Gary Duncan
David Freiberg
John Cipollina
Greg Elmore



Fillmore West?, Summer 1970





Tracks
Disc 1
1.intro 1:051:05
2.Fresh Air 5:366:48
3.Baby, Baby 4:124:42
4.Subway 6:098:17
5.Too Far 3:165:06
6.The Truth 7:508:18
7.Warm Red Wine 3:003:44
8.Pride of Man 3:594:20
Total42:20
Disc 2
1.Mona 1:382:20
2.Long Haired Lady2:463:10
3.Mojo [cut in middle]4:575:59
4.Edward, the Mad Shirt Grinder6:377:17
5.Who Do You Love29:3930:16
Total49:03


NB The above (left column) timings are song timings, not CD track timings.

Lineage: audience master > wav > flac

Mastering: None except indexing of tracks.

Background:

Some years ago i received a box of master reels to transfer, all recorded in the S.F. area in 1969 and 1970, and including a variety of artists. I think most of these are in circulation, how widely i don't know. They were all recorded by the same taper, and these were the original reels.

Tape details:

This recording occupied two sides of a single reel tape, with the side change occurring in the middle of "Mojo." Rather than split the song across two CDs, i moved the disc break back to the tape cut that occurs between "Pride of Man" and "Mona."

While very good audio quality overall, the first part of this recording has very low vocals, virtually inaudible in most places. This must just have been due to unfortunate positioning of the taper. Guitar and keyboards are strong and clear, but everything else is buried. It's interesting to hear what amount to instrumental versions of the songs during this first half, but it's a shame that the vocals are inaudible.

Just after the start of "Pride of Man, the vocals come forward, although still not really strong, and stay that way for most of the remainder. I guess the taper changed position at that point.

Venue/date:

This is yet another recording where the venue and date are uncertain. It's probably one of the Fillmore West dates from the summer of 1970. The band played there 18-21 June, 09-12 July, and 17-20 September. An earlier date in February has been torrented, so it's not that one.

A recording attributed to the Fillmore West on 10 July 1970 is listed on etree, with a very similar song selection. But the run of shows a few weeks earlier seems equally likely for this tape. I can't really find any reason to prefer one of these runs over the others, so i'm calling this June-September 1970.

Any of these dates would make this the latest dated recording in this batch of tapes so far; the previous latest recordings are from May 1970.

As usual, additional facts or speculations are always welcome!



Personnel?
Dino Valenti
Gary Duncan
David Freiberg
John Cipollina
Greg Elmore



What About Me Outtakes & Rehearsals
Wally Heider Studio, July 29th & 30th, 1970
& Corte Madera, SF, July 31st, 1970



Tracks
Wally Heider Studios, San Francisco, July 29th & 30th, 1970
Disc 1
1 - 11.What About Me4:22
4:00
2:56
9:10
6:06
7:36
4:48
0:52
4:41
5:14
8:52
12.What About Me > Baby Baby6:50
13.What About Me final version4:32
14 - 15.Subway4:22
0:38
16.Bittersweet Love4:22
Total79:27
Corte Madera, San Francisco, July 31st, 1970
Disc 2
1.Rain5:57
2.Freeway Flyer (acoustic version)4:20
3.Tuning0:20
4.Rain6:34
5 - 11.Subway4:49
3:57
5:14
1:03
2:15
2:53
4:23
12.Chatter1:27
13 - 14.Subway1:33
2:26
15.Rain8:31
16 - 17.Subway2:49
9:02
18.Spindrifter4:30
Total72:17


Complete tape, Soundboard, uncirculated in this form.

Superb soundboard recording... Part of this tape has circulated as JC masters #127 and What About Me studio session 7.30.70, the rest is uncirculated material, and finally you can have the complete tape. Also, if you have those 2 tapes don't throw them away, cause some tracks are the same, many are different...

First generation reel to reel (revox) > behringer ultra curve pro deq 2496 audio equalizer > amplifiers > tascam audio cdrw750 > cd > computer > plex tool professional XL > wav > flac.

Transfered, remastered & uploaded by 38f on Dime 2006.


What About Me Studio Sessions, 30-Jul-70



Tracks
1.What About Me4:56
2.What About Me4:04
3.What About Me3:09
4.What About Me4:07
5.What About Me5:12
6.What About Me13:51
7.What About Me4:50
8.What About Me1:24
9.What About Me5:09
10.What About Me5:45
11.What About Me3:01
12.What About Me4:38
13.What About Me2:41
Total62:52


Various bits and pieces of What About Me, some with acoustic portions (e.g., track 1), some with reverb (track 2), some a little longer and jammed out (track 9, very nice!), some pretty complete with vocals (tracks 11-12).

Soundboard (Engineer: Dan Healy) > ? > CD > Plexwriter PX-W4824A extraction (EAC v0.9 beta 4) > sector boundary verification (shntool v1.01) > level 8 FLAC encoding (Flac Frontend v1.7.1 etree edition). EAC >> FLAC by jjoops.

Notes: - Nice sounding and very interesting material!


A Tribute to Jesse Farrow
(What About Me out-takes 1970, Calibration Show 1971)



Artwork: LP Front LP Back Resized for CD



Tracks
SIDE A
1.Won't Kill Me *2:35
2.All In My Mind **3:54
3.Good Old Rock-n-Roll2:40
4.What About Me revisited3:57
5.Local Color ***3:04
6.Mojo ****8:10
SIDE B
7.Fresh Air7:28
8.What About Me6:06
9.The Hat9:52
Total47:48


All compositions by Jesse Oris FARROW, except
* by D. FREIBERG
** by G. DUNCAN & J. O. FARROW
*** by J. CIPOLLINA
**** by D. VALENTI


1 - 5 Live at Wally Heider Studios,
San Francisco, 1970 "What About Me out-takes"
 
The band are: John CIPOLLINAguitars
Gary DUNCANvocals & bass
Greg ELMOREdrums & percussions
David FREIBERGvocals & guitars
Nicky HOPKINSpiano
Dino VALENTIvocals & guitars
 
 
6 - 9 Live at Calibration Show 1971
 
The band are: John CIPOLLINAguitars
Gary DUNCANvocals & bass
Greg ELMOREdrums & percussions
David FREIBERGvocals & guitars


THE AMAZING KORNYFONE RECORDS
STEREO

"This (Calibration Show 1971) is really 8/30/70. Cip's last show (til those two in '75) was 12/31/70. "Calibration" was a local San Francisco TV show. The Grateful Dead also played on this date. The G.D. video footage was very rare for many years until last year when a vastly improved version appeared on the torrent sites (incl. here at Dime) recently."


Family Dog, Aug-70



Tracks
1.I'd Rather Be Lonely (fades in)6:08
2.Freeway Flyer 6:15
3.I Believe 6:39
4.Cobra 4:53
5.Who Do You Love34:58
Total58:55


"Sound quality is ok, good audience, but there is one of the best version of Who Do You Love I heard in my life. Pure jam 35 minutes long! The performance is outstanding, Valenti's vocals & Cipollina's guitar at their best. A must. "

Personnel
Dino Valenti
Gary Duncan
David Freiberg
John Cipollina
Greg Elmore



Family Dog at the Beach, 1-Aug-70

This version seeded via DimeADozen, March 2006


Family Dog at the Beach, San Francisco, California, August 1st 1970, new source from reel to reel !

Tracks
1.The Hat (I'd Rather Be Lonely) (fades in) 6:08
2.Freeway Flyer 6:15
3.You Can't Come With Me (aka I Believe)6:39
4.Cobra 4:53
5.Who Do You Love 34:54
Total58:51


WDYL has 1 really light glitch around m. 17:00, and one around m. 19:00, and 1 drop around m. 22:16

1st generation reel to reel > behringer ultra curve pro deq 2496 audio equalizer > tascam audio cdrw750 > plex tool professional XL > wav > flac.

Transfered, remastered and uploaded by 38f on Dime on march 14th 2006.

Ok two words about this fantastic show. This is one of the best QMS audience recordings in circulation, it sounds often like a soundboard... I finally locate my 1st generation reel to reel of this show, and it sounds slightly better of the copies in circulation, and finally it has not all the drops and glitches in Who do you love, often noticed on other tapes of this show, just 2-3 really light, as it is indicated in the text file). The version of Who do you love is one of the best ever heard, 35 minutes long !!!!!!!!

Personnel
Dino Valenti
Gary Duncan
David Freiberg
John Cipollina
Greg Elmore



Freedom Palace, Kansas City, 15-Aug-70



Tracks
Disc 1
1.Freeway Flyer 3:03
2.Takin' It Easy5:05
3.Who Do You Love 3:48
4.Subway 4:19
5.Baby Baby 4:55
6.Fresh Air 6:10
7.Too Far 3:14
8.The Truth 8:11
9.Warm Red Wine2:54
10.Long Haired Lady7:05
Disc 1 Total48:49
Disc 2
1.Pride of Man4:08
2.What About Me6:58
3.The Hat 12:06
Disc 2 Total23:14
Total72:03


Personnel
Dino Valenti
Gary Duncan
David Freiberg
John Cipollina
Greg Elmore



Winterland Arena, San Francisco, California, October 4th, 1970



Tracks
1.Fresh Air 9:57
2.Baby Baby 5:04
3.Subway 7:21
4.What About Me? 7:35
5.The Truth 11:56
6.Call On Me 7:07
7. 8:20
Total57:23


Soundboard recording

First generation reel to reel > behringer ultra curve pro deq 2496 equalizer > tascam cdrw750 > plex tool professional XL > wav > flac

I have around 15 different tapes of this unique classic show with horns, and after a long final analysis of them, i found this version that is unbelivable clean, no dolby, and with a really low background noise... is it like to relisten this show, you tell me when you have done it...

Personnel
John Cipollina
Dino Valenti
David Freiberg
Gary Duncan
Greg Elmore
Mark Naftalin
Plus:
Horn Section


Winterland Arena, San Francisco, California, October 4th, 1970 (Parrish)

Michael Parrish version



Tracks
1.tuning 1:23
2.Fresh Air 8:39
3.Baby Baby 4:42
4.Subway 5:52
5.What About Me? 7:41
6.The Truth 11:34
7.Call On Me 7:06
Total47:00


MFR (Taped by Michael Parrish, Sony TC-366) > Pioneer RT 701 playback > Tascam CDRW700 CD/0 > Tascam CDRW700 CD/1 > Plexwriter PX-W4824A

Extraction (EAC v0.9 beta 4) > tracking (CD Wave v1.6) > minor editing (SoundForge Studio 6.0) > sector boundary verification (shntool v1.01) > level 8 FLAC encoding (Flac Frontend v.1.7.1 etree edition)

Transfer by Michael Parrish, EAC > FLAC by jjoops

- The only edits undertaken were to smooth a few tape transitions.

IMO this is a significant sound quality upgrade over the previously circulating multigen composite. There are still plenty of warts, but most of them seem to do with mix and PA problems at the show rather than with the recording.



Kabuki Theater, LA, 31-Dec-70, aka Kabuki Mojo




Tracks
Disc 1
1.Fresh Air 9:56
2.New Year's Jam3:49
3.Baby Baby 4:57
4.Too Far 3:50
5.The Truth 7:56
6.You're Gonna Need Somebody On Your Bond4:23
7.Dr. Feelgood 6:36
8.Cobra 5:40
9.Song For Frisco6:14
10.Mona 9:33
Disc 2
1.Subway 4:19
2.What About Me7:15
3.Call On Me 16:21
4.Pride of Man 7:03
5.Local Color 5:17
6.Not Fade Away8:18
7.Mojo 10:32
8.Freeway Flyer8:57
Total68:07


Disc 2 is in circulation without disc 1.

This show has been officially released on Snapper / Charly, 2 x CD, 2007

Personnel
Dino Valenti
Gary Duncan
David Freiberg
John Cipollina
Greg Elmore


Kabuki Theater, LA, 31-Dec-70, aka Kabuki Mojo

As seeded via DimeAdozen, 4/05


Tracks
Disc 1
1.Fresh Air 9:54
2.New Year's Jam3:47
3.Baby Baby 4:55
4.Too Far 3:48
5.The Truth 7:54
6.You're Gonna Need Somebody On Your Bond4:21
7.Dr. Feelgood 6:34
8.Cobra 5:38
9.Song For Frisco6:12
10.Mona 9:33
Total62:40
Disc 2
1.Subway 5:04
2.What About Me7:03
3.Call On Me 16:22
4.Pride of Man 4:40
5.Local Color 3:41
6.Not Fade Away7:32
7.Mojo 9:29
8.Freeway Flyer9:01
Total62:57


Disc 2 is in circulation without disc 1.

This show has been officially released on Snapper / Charly, 2 x CD, 2007

Personnel
Dino Valenti
Gary Duncan
David Freiberg
John Cipollina
Greg Elmore



Swing Auditorium, San Bernardino, CA, February 19, 1971

Tracks
1.Fresh Air 5:24
2.Walk On The Line 5:40
3.Dr. Feelgood 5:06
4.Words Can't Say 3:16
5.The Truth 7:12
6.Call On Me 11:06
7.Roadrunner 3:54
8.Mojo 5:57
9.What About Me 7:34
10.Ain't That A Shame 8:22
Total


Lineage: SBD? > ? > CD-R > > Adobe Audition 2 (re-tracking, flac) > HD > Dime

I received this CD-R in a trade and don't even know who I got it from and when. The only confirmed information are the venue and the date on the CD-R. So I tried to find out the titles, which wasn't difficult in most cases. But track 02 was quite a challenge. I tried to find a familiar title to the text on Michael J. Cross' site, but I had no success. Just from listening I am sure the title is "Walk On The Line", because it's the most repeated line in the text. Perhaps it was the only time they played it. Just before the song you can hear "Hey, listen, here's a brand new song, that we've never played in front of anybody before." With track 04 I am not quite sure as well.
There's also no line-up. John Cipollina and Nicky Hopkins left AFAIK middle of 1970, but in an interview John said, that he couldn't refuse playing also in a few concerts after that. I believe that John does play here, but sometimes I am in doubt. If you can assure me, go ahead.
The lineage is not clear as well. It sounds like a SBD or a very good audience. After some googling I found only one reference to this concert on a CD-R trading page. Just from QMS saying that they didn't have much more time to play, or before the last song they said they had only three minutes more left, I guessed that they had played together with other bands. And indeed, they had. I found 2 references for this date. Mike Bloomfield (there is an existing SBD recording) opened for Fleetwood Mac (there's also an existing SBD recording). Because the recording on the CD-R was not properly tracked, I retracked it with Adobe Audition 2 and encoded it to flac.
So that's all I could find out about this concert. Maybe someone can help with further information.
Okay, found out something more. Sometimes it's better to "dime" than to google. On the dime page of new, removed and banned torrents I found out that the Fleetwood Mac torrent is still running. And in the comment section there is a poster of the show, which I will include in the torrent. Also the Mike Bloomfield was seeded here before, but it is now removed and it was seeded with the wrong date (1971-03-24), by the way the date the Fleetwood Mac show was also traded before.
Well, I got this message a few hours ago as a PM and asked the writer to post it in the comment section, because I believe it is interesting enough for every leecher. As he or she hasn't done so yet I post it here. And the writer also states - in contradiction to screwball - that JC was present.
Here's the PM:
I was at the Quicksilver Swing Aud. concert. Quicksilver opened up for Fleetwood Mac. It was a strange and sad night for both bands. Quicksilver was terrible. John played guitar, but he was totally dominated by Dino Valente, who even cut him off during a couple of solos. Everyone and I mean everyone was booing Dino Valente. This was not the Quicksilver we all knew and loved. It reached the point that Dino yelled to the Crowd: "Well if you don't dig it..." and then looked out at the crowd and caught himself, but the set was over soon after. Then Fleetwood Mac hit the stage, and they were on the verge of breaking up. All I can remember is Mick Fleetwood frantically banging the drums with this wide-eyed look of desperation on his face. My friend Piotr, who introduced me the the early Fleetwood Mac at the Whiskey a Go Go, swears that Peter Green filled in that night, quietly playing guitar in the background. Thank you for sharing the music, but I personally am going to pass on listening to that whiny Dino Valente wail of a voice. God was he awful. Fortunately, I got to see John play again (and meet him) 12 years later with the Dinosaurs at Wolfgang's in San Francisco (9-24-83) Does anyone have that show? John was so good that night. Anyway, that's what I remember. Rock on.



Fillmore West, 7/4/71

This could be July 4th or April 7th. However, neither date appears in Marc Skobac's Quicksilver Concert Timeline.
Maybe these are tracks from the July 3 Fillmore Closing show.

Tracks
Side 1
1.Ain't That a Shame8:05
2.Too Far3:31
3.The Truth6:53
4.Roadrunner3:37
Total22:06
Side 2
1. 6:12
2.DJ, Store ad0:39
3.Mona 14:03
4.Fresh Air (fades out)5:01
Total25:56


Lineage: ? > 2 x LP > ? > CD-R

DJ talks over early part of Mona

Picture discs, apparently issued in clear sleeve?




The Fillmore West Closing Week Concerts, Night 4, Saturday 3 July 1971





Tracks
Art CDFLAC
Disc 1
1.Setting up 0:240:290:24
2.Bill Graham intro >
Fresh Air
5:485:435:47
3.Baby Baby 4:554:484:55
4.Dr. Feelgood 5:054:475:05
5.Much To Say 13:0713:2013:06
6.Words Can't Say3:093:233:09
~~~ edit
7.// Mona 7:557:457:54
8.Subway 5:085:105:07
9.Ain't That A Shame8:398:398:38
10.Doing Time In The USA5:555:575:55
11.Mojo 4:534:524:53
12.Come On Along3:484:023:47
Total64:4669:0068:46
Disc 2
1.The Truth 7:387:357:38
2.Roadrunner 4:113:554:11
3.The Hat 9:299:489:28
~~~ edit
4.Who Do You Love14:3114:2214:31
5.What About Me7:538:217:52
6.Call On Me 8:439:068:42
7.Motorcycle Blues12:59----13:03
8.KSAN DJ outro 0:04--------
Total65:2853:0965:28


/from 2 different FM off air master reels > CDr.
2 CDr. time = 134:14

"Fresh Air" and "Mojo" have been officially released on the "Fillmore: The Last Days" DVD (Rhino, 2009)

"Come On Along" is actually "Too Far"

[The contents and track times given in the artwork differ from those on the actual discs. In particular, the disc 2 I have only has the first 6 tracks listed on the artwork and lasts for only 53:09, rather than the 65:28 in the artwork. There is also a FLAC version, described as being from 2 pre-FM reels, circulating which more closely matches the artwork.]


Personnel?
Dino ValentiVocals, Guitar
Gary DuncanGuitar, Vocals
David FreibergBass, Vocals
Greg ElmoreDrums
Chuck SteaksKeyboards
?Congas, Percussion



Rehearsal 1975

Tracks
1. 5:55
2. 10:02
3.The Letter7:22
4. 6:32
5.Flames 14:00
6. 0:54
Total44:49


[Some 'tracks' consist of fragments and aborted attempts, some vocals low in the mix, some chat and argument,
generally more energy than on Solid Silver.]

Probable Personnel
Dino ValentiVocals, Guitar
Gary DuncanGuitar, Vocals
David FreibergBass, Vocals
John CipollinaGuitar
Greg ElmoreDrums
?Organ



Album Rehearsal, S.I.R., June 1975

Tracks
1.The Letter Take 1 1:31
2.The Letter Take 2 5:23
3.Stranger in a Strange Land Take 12:30
4.Stranger in a Strange Land Take 21:53
5.I Hear You Singing Take 1 5:11
6.I Hear You Singing Take 2 4:43
7.Heebie Jeebies 5:29
8.Bittersweet Love (cut) 4:15
9.Gipsy Light (fades in) 3:01
10.They Don't Know 3:48
11.City of Stone 8:25
12.P.A. Lecture Dino 0:54
13.I Wonder Where You Are Tonight 6:40
14.Freeway Song Take 1 2:25
15.Freeway Song Take 2 (fades out)4:41
Total60:56


Soundboard recordings from John's master

Master reel to reel > eq > cd > plextor tool pro e. > wav > flac


Album Rehearsal, S.I.R., June 75

Tracks
1.I Want To Fly 8:13
2.Highway Song 3:12
3.City Of Stone 6:18
4.If It's Alright 2:30
5.Share Babe 6:39
6.Play My Guitar 5:24
7.I Heard You Singing (Instrumental)4:09
8.Nobody's Business 4:43
9.I Wonder Where You Are 3:13
10.Unvicious Circle 3:16
11.I Wonder Where You Are 2 3:08
12.Gypsy Lights 3:46
13.Jam (w/ Kathi McDonald) 1:42
14.Jam 8:38
Total64:58


With Andy Kirby, Drums on Highway

Master > JC Cass > Cass > CD > EAC > FLAC


Album Rehearsal, S.I.R., San Francisco, CA, June 29, 30 & 31, 1975

Tracks
1.Untitled 5:59
2.The End of the World 7:39
3.Bittersweet Love Take 15:47
4.Bittersweet Love Take 210:13
5.Bittersweet Love Take 36:24
6.Bittersweet Love Take 42:17
7.Bittersweet Love Take 55:16
8.Gipsy Light 5:54
9.Heebie Jeebies 5:57
10.City of Stone (aka Lady of the Night)9:42
11.I'm A Believer (fragments)1:47
Total66:59


Soundboard recordings copy from John's master

1st generation tape > eq > cd > plextor tool pro e. > wav > flac

Here is another one from the 1975 r. bunch.......


SIR Studio Rehearsal, June 31, 1975

Tracks
1. 5:56
2. 7:59
3.Bittersweet Love22:39
4.Bittersweet Love7:47
5.Come Back Baby 5:46
6. 4:02
7. 2:44
8. 15:53
Total72:52


Probable Personnel
Dino ValentiVocals, Guitar
Gary DuncanGuitar, Vocals
David FreibergBass, Vocals
John CipollinaGuitar
Greg ElmoreDrums



Studio Outtakes 1975, Part 7

As circulated via DimeADozen, March 2006

Tracks
1.Honky Tonk Jeckyll & Hyde -1- 3:53
2.Worryin' Shoes (instr.) -1- 6:30
3.They Don't Know -1- 3:44
4.Worryin' Shoes -2- 3:22
5.Heebie Jeebies 4:51
6.Honky Tonk Jeckyll & Hyde -2- 3:53
7.Honky Tonk Jeckyll & Hyde -3- 3:56
8.They Don't Know -2- 4:00
9.Honky Tonk Jeckyll & Hyde -4- 3:42
Total38:05


Lineage: Silver - EAC - HD

"These outtakes for the Solid Silver Album have - up to my knowledge - not been circulated before. It's my way to thank Fabio and Paolo for their "unearthening" last summer of recordings that Quicksilver Messenger Service had made in 1975 for their Solid Silver Album and the subsequent reunion tour. I got this from my good friend Albert in Germany as a silver and the lineage before I transferred the CD to my harddisk is unknown to me and Albert (sorry guys!). It may well be that track 1 and 6 are identical but I left both tracks in the compilation not being 100% sure about that (anyway, Honky Tonk tracks all sound very similar). Enjoy!" - Ritschibie

Probable Personnel
Dino ValentiVocals, Guitar
Gary DuncanGuitar, Vocals
David FreibergBass, Vocals
John CipollinaGuitar
Greg ElmoreDrums
?Piano


Studio Outtakes 1975, Part 7, Corrected

As circulated via DimeADozen, April 2006

Tracks
1.Honky Tonk Jekyll & Hyde -1- 3:56
2.Worryin' Shoes (instr.) -1- 3:13
3.Worryin' Shoes (instr.) -2- 3:18
4.They Don't Know -1- 3:55
5.Worryin' Shoes -3- 3:29
6.Heebie Jeebies 4:48
7.Honky Tonk Jekyll & Hyde -2- 3:52
8.Honky Tonk Jekyll & Hyde -3- 3:58
9.They Don't Know -2- 4:10
10.Honky Tonk Jeckyll & Hyde -4- 3:40
Total38:19


Lineage: maxell XL II 90 (low gen tape of unknown origin) > Sony TC WE435 > Creative Audigy 2 ZS > Wavelight > Flac, Level5

Editing: No editing was applied

"[A previous version of] This torrent was banned from Dimeadozen on April 3, 2006 for 'lossy ancestry'. I honestly don't know how this could happen and it's still a mystery for me. Anyway, I tried hard to get the original tape back. As soon as I got it, I redigitised the whole tape and sent track 01 to the dimeadozen mods for checking (thanks phantom51 and phenix059). They found it 'perfectly safe' and gave me the green light for reuploading it."

"I'd like to excuse myself for distributing lossy material to the 120+ people who snatched it. I'll do it in not only uploading a "safe" (corrected) version but including original studio commentaries and sounds to some of the tracks. This small extra may be worth for the aficionados to download it again and accept my excuses."


The Work Tapes, July 3 - 8, 1975

As circulated via DimeADozen, January 2007

Tracks
1.The Letter4:14
2.They Don't Know (Instrumental version)4:10
3.Bitter Sweet Love (Instrumental version)4:24
4.Unvicious Circle
(amazing drums' work from G. Elmore and totally raw short version !)
4:29
Total17:19


Uncirculated SBD, John's master reel to reel

"This is one of the rarest QMS' tapes... John gave to me his master reel back in the 80's, that contains this short one and some Raven material (i'll upload that too), as birthday present... the unbelivable instrumental version of They Don't Know worth this download, with the version of Unvicious Circle that i never found played by the QMS in any other reel. Since all of you are starving for Cipo's maestro guitar style, here you can own something really unique ! I never traded these stuffs before... so please DO NOT SELL IT OR DO ANY OTHER BAD THING WITH IT..."

Master reel to reel > revox > amplifiers > tascam audio cdrw750 > cd > computer > plex tool professional XL > wav > flac

Transfered & uploaded by 38f on Dime, January 2007.

Probable Personnel
Dino ValentiVocals, Guitar
Gary DuncanGuitar, Vocals
David FreibergBass, Vocals
John CipollinaGuitar
Greg ElmoreDrums



Armadillo World Headquarters, Austin, Texas, December 21st 1975

As seeded via DimeADozen by 38f

Tracks
1.Fresh Air 5:42
2.Mona 8:50
3.Baby, Baby 5:20
4.Gypsy Lights 3:56
5.Heebie Jeebies 3:43
6.Cowboy on the Run (fragments) 0:40
7.Bitter Sweet Love 4:20
8.They Don't Know 4:35
9.What About Me (cut)6:28
10.Worrying Shoes (cut)6:12
11.Jam > (cut) 2:00
12.Freeway Flyer (cut) 8:09
Total60:00


(partial show)

Decent audience, not too bad, i heard worst.

1st generation tape > eq > cd > plextor tool pro e. > wav > flac

Since i thought you need a little bit more before i leave, here is the other show of the only 2 done with Cipollina by QMS in their reunion tour... when i'm back i'll upload the complete audience winterland show, but since quality of that really sucks, i prefered to upload this first, has some evident flaws, but is better sounding. I will upload the rehearsals, i have to sort them cause i have many, and may be the other show from july without cipo, but still interesting... see you guys in a little bit...

Note : some drops between the songs, some early beginnings missings, just consider that at least you can have this, better that not have it at all.......since from sunday i'm gone, please carry on to seed for the others, but i should not say it, cause you had been great and i know you will do it as usual....

Personnel
Dino ValentiVocals, Guitar
Gary DuncanGuitar, Vocals
Skip OlsenBass
John CipollinaGuitar, Vocals
Greg ElmoreDrums
Michael LewisKeyboards


Armadillo World Headquarters, Austin, Texas, December 21st 1975

As seeded via DimeADozen, May 2006, by Ritschibie

Tracks
1.Fresh Air 5:55
2.Mona 9:06
3.Baby, Baby 5:39
4.Gypsy Lights 4:03
5.Heebie Jeebies 3:50
6.Cowboy on the Run (part) 0:42
7.Bitter Sweet Love 4:29
8.They Don't Know 4:41
9.What About Me6:37
10.//Dr Feelgood5:54
11.Freeway Flyer8:30
Total59:29


Lineage: maxell XL II 90 (low gen tape of unknown origin)> Sony TC WE435>Creative Audigy 2 ZS>Wavelight>Flac, Level5

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This is a pretty fair audience recording from December 22, 1975 with Quicksilver playing Austin, Texas for their Solid Silver Reunion tour. There is another version of this show in limited circulation which in my ears is not as good and suffered a pretty chaotic transfer process to CDR. I transferred this show myself from tape to the PC. A screenshot of the frequency analysis has been added to the flac files (no sudden decline after the 15 khz line is apparent). Enjoy this gem from the very last days of the QMS with John Cipollina!




Winterland, 28-Dec-75

As seeded via DimeADozen, August 2005

Tracks
1.Fresh Air (fragments)2:08
2.Mona 7:34
3.Baby Baby 5:44
4.Gypsy Light3:14
5.Heebies Jeebies4:58
6.Cowboy on the Run (fragments) 3:06
7.// Who Do You Love8:15
Total35:02


"Uncirculated partial show soundboard...
this is the only soundboard recording of the 1975 reunion tour i'm aware of...
Straight from John Cipollina's master."

Reel to reel> eq > cd > plextor tool pro e. > wav > flac

Personnel
Dino ValentiVocals, Guitar
Gary DuncanGuitar, Vocals
Skip OlsenBass
John CipollinaGuitar, Vocal on 5
Greg ElmoreDrums
Michael LewisKeyboards


Winterland, 28-Dec-75

As seeded via DimeADozen, March 2006

Tracks
Disc 1
1.Tuning1:01
2.Intro > Fresh Air6:31
3.Mona8:04
4.Baby,Baby5:37
5.Gypsy Lights3:47
6.Heebie Jeebie4:43
7.Cowboy On The Run4:37
8.Bittersweet Love4:45
9.They Don't Know4:53
Total44:03
Disc 2
1.Play My Guitar4:40
2.(fade in) Worryin' Shoes9:29
3.What About Me8:56
4.Freeway Flyer20:55
Total44:01


Lineage: lowgen tape of unknown origin > Sony TC WE435 > Creative Audigy 2 ZS > Wavelight > Flac, Level5

Note: tape hiss (only) was removed and the volume (both channels) amplified with Adobe Audition Pro 1.0

"This is a show that Fabio uploaded as an incomplete soundboard (some songs in fragments and only half the show) last year on dimeadozen. He announced to upload the audience recording of the complete show at a later date. Today, I'll help him out doin' the job with my copy of the show. If you have collected the "S.I.R. Studio Outtakes" you might wish to listen to QMS' subsequent performance on the 75 reunion tour. Here you'll find an excellent example for that.

Surely, one of the highlights of their '75 "Solid Silver" tour was the show given on December 28, 1975 in the Winterland arena. QMS went on stage with John Cipollina, Gary Duncan, Greg Elmore, Michael Lewis, Skip Olson and Dino Valenti. On this audience recording they sound relaxed and not at all like being on the edge of splitting once again. I like the way they boogy the "Worryin Shoes", the drive Greg produced on several tracks, the magic John and Gary developped throughout the show and the smoothness Dino applied to "Baby, Baby", "Cowboy on the run" and "What about me". Michael and Skip added a lot of power to the groups stunning performance that special evening. Nevertheless, I still prefer their show at "My Father's Place" in New York (same year, same month) to this one. But Winterland lasts longer (almost 90 min.) and the recording is in a better shape."

Personnel
Dino ValentiVocals, Guitar
Gary DuncanGuitar, Vocals
Skip OlsenBass
John CipollinaGuitar, Vocals
Greg ElmoreDrums
Michael LewisKeyboards





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